Oxford female student spared jail for knife attack
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 dannyh  wherever I lay my hat....... 26 Sep 17 11.01am |
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On face value this does very much seem like a "them and us" situation. However on closer inspection, the girl had a number of mental issues including an eating disorder, and was unstable emotionally due to a previous damaging relationship. Talented and bright, possibly a future life saver, what would be the point of ending that future for her, it's not her fault she's from a privileged back ground. I think the judge for once, exhibited some common sense and applied the law as he saw fit. Was if fair ? probably not, but neither is life, get over it.
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| Stirlingsays 26 Sep 17 11.08am |
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Originally posted by dannyh
On face value this does very much seem like a "them and us" situation. However on closer inspection, the girl had a number of mental issues including an eating disorder, and was unstable emotionally due to a previous damaging relationship. Talented and bright, possibly a future life saver, what would be the point of ending that future for her, it's not her fault she's from a privileged back ground. I think the judge for once, exhibited some common sense and applied the law as he saw fit. Was if fair ? probably not, but neither is life, get over it. I'm not sure we should be picking our 'future life savers' from the ranks of the emotionally unstable no matter how bright.....there are other more 'reliable for others' roads for her to travel down. I have sympathy for your last sentence. If this kind of thinking was applied across all of society I could perhaps not be annoyed as much....but as the public discourse is dominated by claims of the need for 'equality' this kind of hypocrisy needs to be highlighted. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Sep 2017 11.28am)
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| npn Crowborough 26 Sep 17 11.14am |
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Given that custody should serve as deterrent, rehabilitation, and protection for the public, I can't see how an unstable personality is a mitigating factor. That seems to imply she's pretty likely to do something similar again because she's a bit of a nutter - more reason for a custodial sentence, not less
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 26 Sep 17 11.50am |
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isn't there a thread about her already?
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 Michaelawt85 Bexley 26 Sep 17 2.14pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
Sorry to interfere with the frothing,but people get suspended sentences all the time for offences like this,regardless of background. ie, Cardiff 2015: "A supermarket employee stabbed his partner in the arm “in a fit of jealousy” because she talked to another man, a court has heard. Tesco worker Martin Rees pleaded guilty to unlawful wounding and was given a suspended sentence after Cardiff Crown Court heard it was his first offence." Coventry 2016: "A customer tried to stab another man in the back in Nando's in Coventry city centre after a row broke out over a piece of garlic bread. Fortunately, Mohammed Miah’s victim was wearing a thick coat and escaped being injured, a judge has heard. Miah, 21, of Durbar Avenue, Foleshill, pleaded guilty at Warwick Crown Court to attempting to wound victim Sunny Sidhu with intent to cause him grievous bodily harm. Miah was sentenced to 15 months in prison suspended for two years" Leeds 2016: "A teenager has been given a suspended sentence for stabbing another youth two years ago in Almondbury. Leeds Crown Court heard Roden Bedford was only 17 when he went to a mini market in Southfield Road with his uncle David Lockwood on March 8, 2014. While they were there his uncle became involved in a verbal confrontation with a 15-year-old youth and they began to fight." Ah, but in three of those cases food was involved. And if someone stands between me and my next meal I can get slightly annoyed. Hangry is the correct terminology. Should really be introduced as one of the partial defences in my humble opinion
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| Stuk Top half 26 Sep 17 2.25pm |
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Old people also get disproportionately short sentences also. Old, female or rich. All 3 is like a get out of jail free card.
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 26 Sep 17 4.07pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I'm not sure we should be picking our 'future life savers' from the ranks of the emotionally unstable no matter how bright.....there are other more 'reliable for others' roads for her to travel down. She is Young and made a very silly mistake, are you saying that mistakes made when we are young should ruin your chances of future success ? I think Ian Wright might Disagree, or indeed Anthony Joshua. The fact is this is a pure slice of fried headline grabbing gold for those of a certain persuasion, and actually if you look into it, prison is really seen as a last resort in waaaaaayy more cases than your giving the impression of. There are loads of cases of dangerous driving where the victim has actually been killed, and the driver has walked, one case was the mother who was found guilty of causing death by dangerous driving, but spared jail "because it would be a violation of her human rights" There was also the guy last year who ran down a couple killing them, who was finally jailed but had about 30 previous convictions for car related offences. A quick search of the internet will show this is nothing like the inequality scandal it is being out to be. Pure headline grabbing I have sympathy for your last sentence. Indeed If this kind of thinking was applied across all of society I could perhaps not be annoyed as much....but as the public discourse is dominated by claims of the need for 'equality' this kind of hypocrisy needs to be highlighted. Equality is a very easy card to play, much like racism, however as I said a quick search of the internet will show this terrible injustice is actually common place across all walks of life, Jail really seems to be the last resort for all but the most serious of crimes. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Sep 2017 11.28am)
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Kermit8  Hevon 26 Sep 17 4.09pm |
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ok - either some mung-bean eating soppy hippy has hacked into danny's account or he has a massive fantasy boner for her.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 26 Sep 17 4.16pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I'm not sure we should be picking our 'future life savers' from the ranks of the emotionally unstable no matter how bright.....there are other more 'reliable for others' roads for her to travel down. Depends on how well they respond to treatment. I had serious mental health problems in my late 20s and early 30s - but with medication I'm not really any different than anyone else. of course put that on a job application, and you'll never get a job either. If the mitigation and circumstances are such, that the Judge believes that a prison sentence would be 'unduly harsh and not serve rehabilition' in a case where the injury was minor, then its reasonable to show caution. Certainly, going to prison won't be the issue in terms of her career, it'll be the criminal record.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 26 Sep 17 4.18pm |
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Originally posted by npn
Given that custody should serve as deterrent, rehabilitation, and protection for the public, I can't see how an unstable personality is a mitigating factor. That seems to imply she's pretty likely to do something similar again because she's a bit of a nutter - more reason for a custodial sentence, not less Because she's been responding well to mental health treatment, and the psychiatric reports confirm that?
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| YT Oxford 26 Sep 17 4.21pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
I guess it's just as well it was a bread knife - I doubt much damage was inflicted. Lucky she didn't use it on his cobs, then.
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| Michaelawt85 Bexley 26 Sep 17 4.22pm |
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Originally posted by dannyh
Have you had a tap on the head or are you mellowing in old age Dan? A silly mistake? She stabbed someone!!!
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