If we carry on like this for much longer it won't be Parish's decision anyway as the American shareholders will "restructure" the senior management rather than see their investment down the swanee

Some of the SP Lovers on this forum do my head in. If he walked into their house and stabbed their families whilst they were watching Great British Bake Off they would probably thank him and start pulling down his trousers.

The buck stops with the boss.......it doesn't matter what the circumstances are, SP is the one making the decisions and therefor he is at fault.

I run a small business and if people make mistakes it is ultimately my fault for hiring them, not managing them properly, not giving them the resources they need and not identifying issues with them and taking appropriate action.

None of us know the circumstance around the multitude of cock ups we have all had to bare over the last 5 seasons, but we should all understand is that the fault is always at the top.

I think it's more a case of when you're new in a job, and a job with limited resources you need to remember a few things. great starting point

You cannot just decide you don't want these players gone and they're replaced instantly. pivotal to our predicament. Who wants to buy shjt players from Palace ? Players out of their depth would much rather run down their lucrative contracts before going to a League 1 club. Do any good players want to come to Palace, with the very real threat of being in the Championship next season ?

You need to call on them during the time you might need them to perform for you at times and indeed attract interest. This was evident with Kelly and Ward. It's because of Frank's arrogance, idiocy and then naivety towards the mammoth task in the premier league that this happened. His personality was brought into question ages ago if anyone bothers to remember. Stubbornness was definitely raised, meaning his way, whatever. Well that matches with how players he would need were treated one day and then selected for league games days later. Then dumped, then more players used. Chungy anyone?

Do you think his management of Luca was successful? All pre season in a back 3 we were never going to be able to afford? Similar with Ward?

Frank approached this job in the way he'd approach Ajax again or any club in any small league or probably Man Utd because in his mind he was already Van Gaal.

Huddersfield was a disgrace and Swansea was again playing with our club for his own promotion.
Huddersfield was shocking on many , many levels. A shambles on the pitch, which left Palace supporters and the HOL fanatics shocked into silence. Having Huddersfield sing "Where's your fantastic support ?", met with a resounding silence from Palace fans

It was never a good feeling with him and I'm not surprised it wasn't just results that got him fired. Shame it wasn't 70 days sooner when the alarm bells got louder than they already were.
I'm glad it's not my money being gambled, like it has in recent seasons. Hoping lessons are learned. This season could end in disaster, but we still have time to save this

Edited by Rudi Hedman (02 Oct 2017 4.41pm)

Agreed he's made mistakes, but haven't you made any in your business and will you sack yourself like many are saying Parish should do?

Hi Al, absolutely right. Steve Parish has overseen 5 consecutive years in the Prem and we aren't saddled with the massive debts that other clubs have. I think he should get the credit for that.

Underneath those headlines though, I think his decision making has been consistently flawed over the last two years.

I won't bother repeating what both myself and others have been saying, but the club is in a mess at the moment, the majority of it seemingly avoidable. And that's what hurts the most.

Excellent point.

Parish's experience is not something I'd get rid of......Who is going to buy his shares? How do we know that what would replace him is going to be better?

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Oct 2017 6.16am)