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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 01 Oct 17 4.23pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

It's true though. Apart from a few innate sadistic psychopaths people aren't born killers. Given a certain environment, family losses and war-like brutalisation you or I could end up so mentally disturbed that we too could kill innocents. Paranoid schizophrenia that kind of thing.

Not making excuses but perhaps a reason why some are able to commit such heinous acts. They can't be right in the head for one reason or another.

Glad you clarified that - anyone reading it would think you are.

 


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View serial thriller's Profile serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 01 Oct 17 4.25pm Send a Private Message to serial thriller Add serial thriller as a friend

Originally posted by hedgehog50

What causes predictable left wing posts that blame the victims and their governments instead of the killers.

How am I blaming the victims?

Look. Arguments against terrorism have successfully blamed it on immigration. But we've left the EU, spend ever increasing amounts of border security, detention centres and surveillance services, whilst vetting foreigners from all countries who come here.

It clearly hasn't worked, as terrorist attacks are going up. We know, from questioning many previous sympathisers with terrorist cells and who have committed acts of terrorism, that psychological trauma resulting from them or family members being killed or experiencing war zones is incredibly common.

To ignore that link is to ignore a clear cause of why innocent people are dying on our streets. I myself was one tube in front of the Parson's Green explosion the other day. Not allowing a clear and frank discussion about this issue to happen will only result in more innocents dying.

 


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Originally posted by hedgehog50

Glad you clarified that - anyone reading it would think you are.

Not at all. And I have zero problem with them being shot dead on the spot. Doing them and everyone else a favour. Put them out of their misery and no chance of getting away to kill others.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 01 Oct 17 4.30pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

What, like when South African police shoot dead striking miners you mean?

They were cunds doing that weren't they.

What s your point oh wise one?

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 01 Oct 17 4.32pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

They were cunds doing that weren't they.

What s your point oh wise one?

Why didn't the Labour party protest about it, with the exception of Peter Haine, there was just a few embarrassed shrugs of the shoulders from the rest of you.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 01 Oct 17 4.34pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Why didn't the Labour party protest about it, with the exception of Peter Haine, there was just a few embarrassed shrugs of the shoulders from the rest of you.

I wasn't in the Labour party then.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 01 Oct 17 4.35pm

I reckon it was an unhinged lone wolf .


sarcasm

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 01 Oct 17 4.37pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

How am I blaming the victims?

Look. Arguments against terrorism have successfully blamed it on immigration. But we've left the EU, spend ever increasing amounts of border security, detention centres and surveillance services, whilst vetting foreigners from all countries who come here.

It clearly hasn't worked, as terrorist attacks are going up. We know, from questioning many previous sympathisers with terrorist cells and who have committed acts of terrorism, that psychological trauma resulting from them or family members being killed or experiencing war zones is incredibly common.

To ignore that link is to ignore a clear cause of why innocent people are dying on our streets. I myself was one tube in front of the Parson's Green explosion the other day. Not allowing a clear and frank discussion about this issue to happen will only result in more innocents dying.

Nonsense, we are still in the EU, there is still free movement of people, we still let in so called asylum seekers - often men masquerading as boys. Most of the many terrorist acts carried out in the UK have been by people born in this country - they had no family members killed. The clear cause is the failure of multi-culturalism and the inevitable clash of different races/religions/cultures.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 01 Oct 17 4.42pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Nonsense, we are still in the EU, there is still free movement of people, we still let in so called asylum seekers - often men masquerading as boys. Most of the many terrorist acts carried out in the UK have been by people born in this country - they had no family members killed. The clear cause is the failure of multi-culturalism and the inevitable clash of different races/religions/cultures brought about by bigots like me

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 01 Oct 17 4.47pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Nonsense, we are still in the EU, there is still free movement of people, we still let in so called asylum seekers - often men masquerading as boys. Most of the many terrorist acts carried out in the UK have been by people born in this country - they had no family members killed. The clear cause is the failure of multi-culturalism and the inevitable clash of different races/religions/cultures brought about by bigots like me

This is rich coming from you!
Definition of bigot:
"a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions."

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 01 Oct 17 4.53pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

This is rich coming from you!
Definition of bigot:
"a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions."

Does your (and others) friendly discourse around Islam and muslims make Muslims feel part of Great Britain.
Does that kind of discourse engender a collaborative way forward to tackling problems or drive a wedge making co-operation and collaboration impossible.

 

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Originally posted by serial thriller

If I was worried about terrorism, which I'm not particularly, I'd be on the streets protesting about the wars we in the West are continuing, for almost no ideologically coherent reason, in the Middle East.

What causes someone to go out and murder people in the street? A lot of these people come from backgrounds where they have seen family members killed, or experienced a brutal and unjust death or tragedy. That kind of deep-seated trauma, psychologically contributes to often irrational bouts of rage and violence.

Add in a bit of religion and, as we are seeing with Burmese Buddhists, IRA Christians or Jihadi Muslims, you have the bullsh*t ideological manipulation which people already severely mentally damaged will view as justifying indiscriminate murder.

What in Morrocco or North London?

Apologist alert.

 

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