Doesn't leave you anywhere different but 72% of people who have no educational qualifications at all voted Leave

Edited by Oliver (05 Oct 2017 11.56am)

I have prepared one of my own time capsules. I have placed some rather large samples of dynamite, gunpowder and nitroglycerin. My time capsule is set to go off in the year 3000. It will show them what we are really like.

I don't disagree with this at all Danny. (Wish I was anywhere near being under-25 though).

The EU has the interests of European (and British) Financial Services and Corporate interests at heart beyond anything else - I'm not pretending any different. However, the social and regulatory safeguards in place across the EU despite this corporate focus are much better for the average guy in the UK than the deregulated, quasi-Victorian ultra-capitalist, "devil take the hindmost" mess this country stands to become in the Brexit dreams of Farage, Murdoch, Boris et al.

Take something as (to some people) trivial as food labelling. I like to know what's in my food and I like to know stuff like sugar / fat content. I want to know if it's full of artificial sh1te, Palm Oil, GM ingredients and the like - it gives me freedom to choose.

This heinous EU over-regulation was one of the first on the hit-list for the Brexit campaign. Why? Does it allow consumers to "take back control"? Does it hell - it allows manufacturers and retailers to hide all sorts of crap in their products without the consumer having a clue.

I'm looking beyond WW2 in history - history is filled with examples of what happens to the average person when wealth & capital are given free reign to enrich themselves further at everyone else's expense.

The EU is the lesser of two evils, in my book.

Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

Get a better book.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

This is a fair point. The Status Quo is rigged.

You just think that Brexit will alter it for the benefit of the many - I couldn't disagree more with that view.

Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

If you think people have little chance of changing how their own country is run, what chance do you think they would have in changing the EU?

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

The EU - in my view - is the one thing saving us from the unrestrained excesses of our current ruling class. Food Banks aren't an EU requirement, selling off core national infrastructure to the highest bidder isn't either; nor is entrenching wealth by deliberate stoking of property prices by failure to build more homes.

The changes need to happen at home first.

Edited by Mr_Gristle (05 Oct 2017 1.27pm)

Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)