Not sure what point you're trying to make here but it hardly shows them in a non-racist light. All extreme nationalist organisations in the UK have sided with the loyalists in Ireland.

Why do people feel compelled to deny what the FLA is. If you're going to be a racist at least be a proud racist.

Indeed, their inability to state their political principles is very disturbing.

From experience, it reminds me of the "little" skinhead at the back of the bunch jumping up and down, pointing his little podgy finger, egging his bigger, harder, brethren on.

And that is why it will fizzle out and die a death. Because all that drives it is what it is against, as opposed to what it is for.

That is the key issue here with many modern day organisations and individuals. Its all a variety of flavours of virtue signalling.

Being against anything is the easy stance to take. The default position.

I admire the ethos that has driven it. And I have been impressed by the numbers it has put out on the streets (and which has scared the radical left. They simply have no answer beyond blanket accusations of racism to any truly working class movement) but the reality is that being against fundamental Islam does not make you anything special. None of us want kids blown up going to pop concerts or tourists killed strolling around Borough Market.

I get the frustration. I get the wanting to tear your hair out when you percieve a State system more concerned with ensuring that somebody does not write anything radical on twitter rather than imprisoning any and everybody who left these shores to fight for IS and then skulks back home.

But it either has to become political or else it is nothing more than hot air. Froth and piss.

Good post Matov. You most certainly understand your subject.
However, fizzle out might happen but as the FLA was started after the Manchester bombing by an x hooligan, and has now over 70,000 members, including firms who walk together without fighting, families who want a better life for their kids, and also families of victims of terrorism, not forgetting , blacks, Asians, Muslims and ex Muslims, ghurkas, and veterans.

The more we're called racist, the stronger we become. The more we're called islamaphobic, the stronger we become.

Three marches no violence, no arrests, scares the establishment s***less. They can't handle it.

The voice of the forgotten a minority for those who support minorities, is getting stronger.

Manchester May is the next march and it's gonna be massive.

As for political stance search the DFLA, FLA are non political whereas the DFLA are.

You talk a lot of sense stirlingsays, and of course in principal you understand the FLA, and you piss off a lot of ignorant posters.
Of course none of the major parties aren't acknowledging because of that racism card, but finally, coincidentally after the DFLA protested about the denial of Telford abuse. Police chief is now gonna look into it.

As for those movements mate, I've got to look into it a bit more but fair to say progressive politics has put humanity in danger.

Common sense. Sensible debate,is where its at.

Edited by Park Road (03 Apr 2018 5.47pm)

I was about to lay out some of my extremely moderate views and see if any of them run parallel to the policies of proscribed or at least vilified (by the left) groups but I don't need to.

Majiid Nawaz shares the views of many people here in terms of anti-extremism, and because he also opposes the hijab he's deemed an anti-Muslim extremist of the ilk of the usual far-right groups.

So forget FLA for a minute, even a Muslim against fundamentalism is an enemy of the left and would undoubtedly be deemed a racist were he white.

Edited by johnfirewall (03 Apr 2018 6.47pm)