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Stirlingsays 16 Oct 17 9.51am
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Tuition fees have effectively undermined education in the UK, and turned it into a business, requiring students to accumulate debt on an unprecedented scale - Undermining the arts and humanities - effectively an attack on the cultural heart of the UK. We need less people in arts and humanities and more in STEM subjects. This country has never needed university degrees to produce some of the very best in the word in the arts.....as for the humanities....well..if they are pumping out people like that American professor on Question Time the other night.....the less said the better. Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Council House building - Its essential that the unregulated excess of the housing market be brought to heel - Homes are NOT investments, they are places where people need to live. Homes provided by the state are places where people need to live.....sure. Homes you pay for to own are investments. Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Pay caps are anti-capitalist and break the very notion of a free market. We regulate the 'free market' already with the free part being an expression. For example, we just don't allow it to operate in areas we don't like....body organs for example. One thing is for certain, the free market is an extremely important economic theory that works....and anyone fecking around with it has to know what they are doing. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Oct 2017 9.52am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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16 Oct 17 9.51am

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Tuition fees have effectively undermined education in the UK, and turned it into a business, requiring students to accumulate debt on an unprecedented scale - Undermining the arts and humanities - effectively an attack on the cultural heart of the UK.

We need less people in arts and humanities and more in STEM subjects. This country has never needed university degrees to produce some of the very best in the word in the arts.....as for the humanities....well..if they are pumping out people like that American professor on Question Time the other night.....the less said the better.

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Council House building - Its essential that the unregulated excess of the housing market be brought to heel - Homes are NOT investments, they are places where people need to live.

Homes provided by the state are places where people need to live.....sure.

Homes you pay for to own are investments.

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Pay caps are anti-capitalist and break the very notion of a free market.

We regulate the 'free market' already with the free part being an expression. For example, we just don't allow it to operate in areas we don't like....body organs for example.

One thing is for certain, the free market is an extremely important economic theory that works....and anyone fecking around with it has to know what they are doing.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Oct 2017 9.52am)

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Eustace H. Plimsoll Aldershot 16 Oct 17 10.31am
2 pages in and I'm the first (I think - I can't manage more than skim-reading of these threads without weeping uncontrollably and wanting to kill) to highlight the title's apostrophe horror. Tsk. This place really has gone to s***. (And let there be no claims of missing "of"s.) Edited by Eustace H. Plimsoll (16 Oct 2017 10.35am) As a woman, I can step aside, or step up my game...
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2 pages in and I'm the first (I think - I can't manage more than skim-reading of these threads without weeping uncontrollably and wanting to kill) to highlight the title's apostrophe horror. Tsk.

This place really has gone to s***.

(And let there be no claims of missing "of"s.)

Edited by Eustace H. Plimsoll (16 Oct 2017 10.35am)

As a woman, I can step aside, or step up my game...

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YT Oxford 16 Oct 17 10.41am
Originally posted by Eustace H. Plimsoll 2 pages in and I'm the first (I think - I can't manage more than skim-reading of these threads without weeping uncontrollably and wanting to kill) to highlight the title's apostrophe horror. Tsk. This place really has gone to s***. (And let there be no claims of missing "of"s.) Edited by Eustace H. Plimsoll (16 Oct 2017 10.35am) It makes me weep that the world is so polarised, that a little bit of consensus between a government and its opposition is seen as cause for abuse or ridicule rather than celebration. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Originally posted by Eustace H. Plimsoll

2 pages in and I'm the first (I think - I can't manage more than skim-reading of these threads without weeping uncontrollably and wanting to kill) to highlight the title's apostrophe horror. Tsk.

This place really has gone to s***.

(And let there be no claims of missing "of"s.)

Edited by Eustace H. Plimsoll (16 Oct 2017 10.35am)

It makes me weep that the world is so polarised, that a little bit of consensus between a government and its opposition is seen as cause for abuse or ridicule rather than celebration.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 16 Oct 17 10.48am
Originally posted by YT It makes me weep that the world is so polarised, that a little bit of consensus between a government and its opposition is seen as cause for abuse or ridicule rather than celebration. I welcome the announcement. How many have said Corbyn can't lead an effective opposition? Seems from this he is. In fact am I right in saying May has announced more Labour policies than Tory ones. Who can't be anything but pleased at such cross party consensus?
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Originally posted by YT

It makes me weep that the world is so polarised, that a little bit of consensus between a government and its opposition is seen as cause for abuse or ridicule rather than celebration.

I welcome the announcement. How many have said Corbyn can't lead an effective opposition? Seems from this he is.
In fact am I right in saying May has announced more Labour policies than Tory ones.

Who can't be anything but pleased at such cross party consensus?

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 16 Oct 17 10.49am
Originally posted by Eustace H. Plimsoll 2 pages in and I'm the first (I think - I can't manage more than skim-reading of these threads without weeping uncontrollably and wanting to kill) to highlight the title's apostrophe horror. Tsk. This place really has gone to s***. (And let there be no claims of missing "of"s.) Edited by Eustace H. Plimsoll (16 Oct 2017 10.35am) U ok hun?
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Shizzlehurst 16 Oct 17 10.49am

Originally posted by Eustace H. Plimsoll

2 pages in and I'm the first (I think - I can't manage more than skim-reading of these threads without weeping uncontrollably and wanting to kill) to highlight the title's apostrophe horror. Tsk.

This place really has gone to s***.

(And let there be no claims of missing "of"s.)

Edited by Eustace H. Plimsoll (16 Oct 2017 10.35am)

U ok hun?

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tome Inner Tantalus Time. 16 Oct 17 11.21am
Originally posted by YT It makes me weep that the world is so polarised, that a little bit of consensus between a government and its opposition is seen as cause for abuse or ridicule rather than celebration. Ain't that the truth. The many splenetic responses to this piece in the Guardian are a great example of this despair in action. [Link] Depressing. A one and a two...
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Inner Tantalus Time. 16 Oct 17 11.21am

Originally posted by YT

It makes me weep that the world is so polarised, that a little bit of consensus between a government and its opposition is seen as cause for abuse or ridicule rather than celebration.

Ain't that the truth. The many splenetic responses to this piece in the Guardian are a great example of this despair in action.

[Link]

Depressing.

A one and a two...

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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 16 Oct 17 11.56am
Originally posted by nickgusset [Link] Corbyn has them running scared. Activate ain't mobilising the Tory yoot. Based on policy, Ed "the wrong brother" Miliband is though. "Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."
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Where you have to have an English ... 16 Oct 17 11.56am

Originally posted by nickgusset

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Corbyn has them running scared. Activate ain't mobilising the Tory yoot.

Based on policy, Ed "the wrong brother" Miliband is though.

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 16 Oct 17 12.00pm
Originally posted by Eustace H. Plimsoll 2 pages in and I'm the first (I think - I can't manage more than skim-reading of these threads without weeping uncontrollably and wanting to kill) to highlight the title's apostrophe horror. Tsk. This place really has gone to s***. (And let there be no claims of missing "of"s.) Edited by Eustace H. Plimsoll (16 Oct 2017 10.35am) Edited to ensure grammar, but missing commas. Chill. "Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."
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Where you have to have an English ... 16 Oct 17 12.00pm

Originally posted by Eustace H. Plimsoll

2 pages in and I'm the first (I think - I can't manage more than skim-reading of these threads without weeping uncontrollably and wanting to kill) to highlight the title's apostrophe horror. Tsk.

This place really has gone to s***.

(And let there be no claims of missing "of"s.)

Edited by Eustace H. Plimsoll (16 Oct 2017 10.35am)

Edited to ensure grammar, but missing commas.

Chill.

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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Hrolf The Ganger 16 Oct 17 12.18pm
Originally posted by nickgusset I welcome the announcement. How many have said Corbyn can't lead an effective opposition? Seems from this he is. In fact am I right in saying May has announced more Labour policies than Tory ones. Who can't be anything but pleased at such cross party consensus? Once again you are displaying deliberate stupidity. Labour do nothing except tell target voters what they want to hear. The Tories have tried to be as honest and pragmatic as politicians can reasonably be with voters in an attempt to promote policy that is actually required. That failed at the last election so they have resorted to the Labour tactic. And we wonder why politicians lie. People of certain demographics are too dumb to understand the issues sufficiently to make any kind of judgement. We get what we deserve.
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Originally posted by nickgusset

I welcome the announcement. How many have said Corbyn can't lead an effective opposition? Seems from this he is.
In fact am I right in saying May has announced more Labour policies than Tory ones.

Who can't be anything but pleased at such cross party consensus?

Once again you are displaying deliberate stupidity.
Labour do nothing except tell target voters what they want to hear. The Tories have tried to be as honest and pragmatic as politicians can reasonably be with voters in an attempt to promote policy that is actually required. That failed at the last election so they have resorted to the Labour tactic.

And we wonder why politicians lie. People of certain demographics are too dumb to understand the issues sufficiently to make any kind of judgement. We get what we deserve.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 16 Oct 17 1.01pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Once again you are displaying deliberate stupidity. Labour do nothing except tell target voters what they want to hear. The Tories have tried to be as honest and pragmatic as politicians can reasonably be with voters in an attempt to promote policy that is actually required. That failed at the last election so they have resorted to the Labour tactic. And we wonder why politicians lie. People of certain demographics are too dumb to understand the issues sufficiently to make any kind of judgement. We get what we deserve. Oh dear.
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Shizzlehurst 16 Oct 17 1.01pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

And we wonder why politicians lie. People of certain demographics are too dumb to understand the issues sufficiently to make any kind of judgement. We get what we deserve.

Oh dear.

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elgrande bedford 16 Oct 17 1.33pm
Originally posted by nickgusset No it's a bulls*** article from the express. Rather than diverting from the subject at hand, why not give us your own thoughts on tuition fees, council house building and lifting the pay cap for some public sector workers. All parties have failed with social house building,and what public sector workers do you think should have a rise. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 16 Oct 17 1.33pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

No it's a bulls*** article from the express.

Rather than diverting from the subject at hand, why not give us your own thoughts on tuition fees, council house building and lifting the pay cap for some public sector workers.

All parties have failed with social house building,and what public sector workers do you think should have a rise.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 16 Oct 17 1.54pm
Originally posted by nickgusset No it's a bulls*** article from the express. Rather than diverting from the subject at hand, why not give us your own thoughts on tuition fees, council house building and lifting the pay cap for some public sector workers. This from the (Link) King? Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 16 Oct 17 1.54pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

No it's a bulls*** article from the express.

Rather than diverting from the subject at hand, why not give us your own thoughts on tuition fees, council house building and lifting the pay cap for some public sector workers.

This from the (Link) King?

Pro USA & Israel

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