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alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 23 Oct 17 12.08pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman The inevitability argument I've been making I actually see genuinely happening next season with all those players out of contract. I certainly don't see it as inevitable this season or last season. But then again other teams forward plan and sell a big player with a change ready to adapt. We'd more likely just sign whoever is available in the papers after 3 games and work out a formula 12 games in after sacking another manager. The more inevitability of next season makes this season a bit easier to take. Like not really getting carried away v Chelsea when you know we're effectively boxing one handed southpaw as a right hander. Start looking for a championship manager who knows how to do things like Pulis and Allardyce do because we sure as hell can't. Oh and an acquiescent relationship isn't a successful one for long, unless Gary Neville takes over Parish's body. Another day more of Rudi's Tosh. How about explaining Evertons Transfer Policy or Arsenal letting Ozil and Sanchez's contracts run down. You just say its Parish who makes mistakes. Palace 13th 2017/18.
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alaneagle1

Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 23 Oct 17 12.08pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

The inevitability argument I've been making I actually see genuinely happening next season with all those players out of contract. I certainly don't see it as inevitable this season or last season.

But then again other teams forward plan and sell a big player with a change ready to adapt. We'd more likely just sign whoever is available in the papers after 3 games and work out a formula 12 games in after sacking another manager.

The more inevitability of next season makes this season a bit easier to take. Like not really getting carried away v Chelsea when you know we're effectively boxing one handed southpaw as a right hander.

Start looking for a championship manager who knows how to do things like Pulis and Allardyce do because we sure as hell can't. Oh and an acquiescent relationship isn't a successful one for long, unless Gary Neville takes over Parish's body.

Another day more of Rudi's Tosh.
How about explaining Evertons Transfer Policy or Arsenal letting Ozil and Sanchez's contracts run down.
You just say its Parish who makes mistakes.

Palace 13th 2017/18.

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Mystic Smeg Here 23 Oct 17 12.38pm
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Den1923 23 Oct 17 12.41pm
Originally posted by alaneagle1 Hi Den, Hope your well. I see your joining in and moaning about Parish. Our club is doing well to try to compete in this league. Parish has admitted his errors with Frank and the Strikers. Continually going on about it achieves nothing. As I’ve mentioned before there’s about 6 points difference between 8th and 17th come May. So called established clubs such as Stoke and Everton are struggling at the moment. Long way to go. COYP. Hi Alan, Good to hear from you as always. It is of course that we care, that we do moan about Parish, he really has had a chance over the last five years to make a success by at least establishing us in PL, albeit as a mid lower table team and yet he has wasted that time, just the home record is one example 27 wins from 80 PL games to name just one and then there is the succession of managers, at the last count that was eight, which is bound to confuse any team as each manager has his preferred system. Transfers are another example, we seem to have more than our fair share of player with suspect medical history when they came in, Sako & Tomkins for example. Whilst I'm sure that SP is a very competent businessman, clearly he is not, as PL club chairman, many good people often end up either being promoted or promoting themselves to a level of incompetence and I personally feel that is what has happened with SP, this evidenced by his bad decisions that seem to be increasing and his in ability to make decisions quickly enough, the Managerial appointment of FDB was a good example, SA had given him good notice about his departure at the end of last season and yet it was just before we were about to embark on the Hong Kong trip that he made the appointment having let Silva and other slip through the net. Then there was the poor transfer dealings over the summer, even with Sakho it went down to the wire when we knew we needed him at the end of the last season and as for allowing us to go in to the new season with only one fit striker well that is unforgivable. I think the decent concerning Parish is justified by all those that have expressed such feelings it is after all only because they want the club to stay where they belong in PL, if we lose that status, our income will really suffer and all the decent players we have now will be off!
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Den1923

23 Oct 17 12.41pm

Originally posted by alaneagle1

Hi Den,
Hope your well.
I see your joining in and moaning about Parish.
Our club is doing well to try to compete in this league.
Parish has admitted his errors with Frank and the Strikers.
Continually going on about it achieves nothing.
As I’ve mentioned before there’s about 6 points difference between 8th and 17th come May.
So called established clubs such as Stoke and Everton are struggling at the moment.
Long way to go.
COYP.

Hi Alan,
Good to hear from you as always. It is of course that we care, that we do moan about Parish, he really has had a chance over the last five years to make a success by at least establishing us in PL, albeit as a mid lower table team and yet he has wasted that time, just the home record is one example 27 wins from 80 PL games to name just one and then there is the succession of managers, at the last count that was eight, which is bound to confuse any team as each manager has his preferred system. Transfers are another example, we seem to have more than our fair share of player with suspect medical history when they came in, Sako & Tomkins for example. Whilst I'm sure that SP is a very competent businessman, clearly he is not, as PL club chairman, many good people often end up either being promoted or promoting themselves to a level of incompetence and I personally feel that is what has happened with SP, this evidenced by his bad decisions that seem to be increasing and his in ability to make decisions quickly enough, the Managerial appointment of FDB was a good example, SA had given him good notice about his departure at the end of last season and yet it was just before we were about to embark on the Hong Kong trip that he made the appointment having let Silva and other slip through the net. Then there was the poor transfer dealings over the summer, even with Sakho it went down to the wire when we knew we needed him at the end of the last season and as for allowing us to go in to the new season with only one fit striker well that is unforgivable. I think the decent concerning Parish is justified by all those that have expressed such feelings it is after all only because they want the club to stay where they belong in PL, if we lose that status, our income will really suffer and all the decent players we have now will be off!

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davehuggins 23 Oct 17 12.46pm
I am so grateful to SP and all those who have put so much work in. But now I am afraid SP is being found out with little or no planning for the future. I am sure he has his plans but NOT from a footballing person point of view. I am not call ing for his head just please get some help in from somebody who knows about football.
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davehuggins

23 Oct 17 12.46pm

I am so grateful to SP and all those who have put so much work in. But now I am afraid SP is being found out with little or no planning for the future. I am sure he has his plans but NOT from a footballing person point of view. I am not call ing for his head just please get some help in from somebody who knows about football.

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Den1923 23 Oct 17 12.51pm
Originally posted by Brentmiester_General You want to see him gone!? I think you've been following American sport a bit too much. Maybe you'd like to see us change our name and move state while we're at it? Parish is the best thing to happen to our club for a long while and is one of us. We don't just change things and ship him out because we've hit a period of hardship. This is where we stick together and battle our way out of the hardship. We're Crystal Palace FC, not Arsenal or Man United. That was over five years ago, now look at the league table and face reality!
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Den1923

23 Oct 17 12.51pm

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

You want to see him gone!? I think you've been following American sport a bit too much. Maybe you'd like to see us change our name and move state while we're at it?
Parish is the best thing to happen to our club for a long while and is one of us. We don't just change things and ship him out because we've hit a period of hardship. This is where we stick together and battle our way out of the hardship. We're Crystal Palace FC, not Arsenal or Man United.

That was over five years ago, now look at the league table and face reality!

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Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 23 Oct 17 1.00pm
Originally posted by Den1923 Hi Alan, Good to hear from you as always. It is of course that we care, that we do moan about Parish, he really has had a chance over the last five years to make a success by at least establishing us in PL, albeit as a mid lower table team and yet he has wasted that time, just the home record is one example 27 wins from 80 PL games to name just one and then there is the succession of managers, at the last count that was eight, which is bound to confuse any team as each manager has his preferred system. Transfers are another example, we seem to have more than our fair share of player with suspect medical history when they came in, Sako & Tomkins for example. Whilst I'm sure that SP is a very competent businessman, clearly he is not, as PL club chairman, many good people often end up either being promoted or promoting themselves to a level of incompetence and I personally feel that is what has happened with SP, this evidenced by his bad decisions that seem to be increasing and his in ability to make decisions quickly enough, the Managerial appointment of FDB was a good example, SA had given him good notice about his departure at the end of last season and yet it was just before we were about to embark on the Hong Kong trip that he made the appointment having let Silva and other slip through the net. Then there was the poor transfer dealings over the summer, even with Sakho it went down to the wire when we knew we needed him at the end of the last season and as for allowing us to go in to the new season with only one fit striker well that is unforgivable. I think the decent concerning Parish is justified by all those that have expressed such feelings it is after all only because they want the club to stay where they belong in PL, if we lose that status, our income will really suffer and all the decent players we have now will be off! We are established. Even established teams fall foul of relegation now and again. "We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...
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Brentmiester_General

Front line in the battle against t... 23 Oct 17 1.00pm

Originally posted by Den1923

We are established. Even established teams fall foul of relegation now and again.

"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

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YT Oxford 23 Oct 17 1.05pm
Originally posted by NEILLO It will take a monumental effort and a lot of breaks from Lady Luck to stay up now. The Chelsea result shows what is possible when you have both in tandem, but you can't always rely on being lucky. A point yesterday would have been another building block on the long road to recovery but once again a result was beyond us. What has let us down is the infrastructure of the club. We still look like a newly promoted team even in our 5th consecutive season. It's a shame, because after 51 seasons, I would like to have seen Palace look comfortable at the top level. But it's hardly a shock that once again we have as a club shot ourselves in the foot. If relegation becomes a reality, then I'm not sure where that leaves the current ownership. So I wouldn't be surprised if the club is in new hands next summer. And I think Parish will be a casualty in any new arrangement - and frankly I don't think that would necessarily be a bad thing. We don't look very much like this year's newly-promoted teams. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 23 Oct 17 1.05pm

Originally posted by NEILLO

It will take a monumental effort and a lot of breaks from Lady Luck to stay up now.

The Chelsea result shows what is possible when you have both in tandem, but you can't always rely on being lucky.

A point yesterday would have been another building block on the long road to recovery but once again a result was beyond us.

What has let us down is the infrastructure of the club. We still look like a newly promoted team even in our 5th consecutive season.

It's a shame, because after 51 seasons, I would like to have seen Palace look comfortable at the top level. But it's hardly a shock that once again we have as a club shot ourselves in the foot.

If relegation becomes a reality, then I'm not sure where that leaves the current ownership. So I wouldn't be surprised if the club is in new hands next summer. And I think Parish will be a casualty in any new arrangement - and frankly I don't think that would necessarily be a bad thing.

We don't look very much like this year's newly-promoted teams.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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Den1923 23 Oct 17 1.26pm
Originally posted by Brentmiester_General We are established. Even established teams fall foul of relegation now and again. We are a long way from being established, there is no reasons for us to be in this position, its is down to bad leadership and it will cost the club a fortune if we go down and all because the current chairman has not got the experience or expertise to run a football club in the top flight and he lacks the courage to say so and step aside to allow someone with the necessary expertise to takeover. He is not worth his current 695K a year salary not to mention his car and pension that the club pay into!
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Den1923

23 Oct 17 1.26pm

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

We are established. Even established teams fall foul of relegation now and again.

We are a long way from being established, there is no reasons for us to be in this position, its is down to bad leadership and it will cost the club a fortune if we go down and all because the current chairman has not got the experience or expertise to run a football club in the top flight and he lacks the courage to say so and step aside to allow someone with the necessary expertise to takeover. He is not worth his current 695K a year salary not to mention his car and pension that the club pay into!

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 23 Oct 17 1.27pm
Originally posted by YT We don't look very much like this year's newly-promoted teams. I meant that we look as ill prepared now as we did 5 years ago when at least we had the excuse of not having been in the Prem before under SP. And yes, of course - those 3 clubs are out performing Palace at the moment Old, Ungifted and White
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NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 23 Oct 17 1.27pm

Originally posted by YT

We don't look very much like this year's newly-promoted teams.

I meant that we look as ill prepared now as we did 5 years ago when at least we had the excuse of not having been in the Prem before under SP.

And yes, of course - those 3 clubs are out performing Palace at the moment

Old, Ungifted and White

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 23 Oct 17 1.38pm
Originally posted by alaneagle1 Another day more of Rudi's Tosh. How about explaining Evertons Transfer Policy or Arsenal letting Ozil and Sanchez's contracts run down. You just say its Parish who makes mistakes. The current situation says it isn't tosh, mate. Everton and Arsenal have made their mistakes once, not twice. Arsenal's may end up working out. The Ozil one isn't easy with him valuing himself above what any sane person will offer. But Arsenal have a successful business model from the football whereas we don't. Again, because other clubs have done the same, its excusable for us. Everton, Arsenal, Coventry, Portsmouth. Who will it be next time? Colchester? COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 23 Oct 17 1.38pm

Originally posted by alaneagle1

Another day more of Rudi's Tosh.
How about explaining Evertons Transfer Policy or Arsenal letting Ozil and Sanchez's contracts run down.
You just say its Parish who makes mistakes.

The current situation says it isn't tosh, mate.

Everton and Arsenal have made their mistakes once, not twice. Arsenal's may end up working out. The Ozil one isn't easy with him valuing himself above what any sane person will offer. But Arsenal have a successful business model from the football whereas we don't.

Again, because other clubs have done the same, its excusable for us. Everton, Arsenal, Coventry, Portsmouth. Who will it be next time? Colchester?

COYP

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Den1923 23 Oct 17 1.46pm
not a good year for the Dutch, Koeman just got the boot!
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23 Oct 17 1.46pm

not a good year for the Dutch, Koeman just got the boot!

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alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 23 Oct 17 2.03pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman The current situation says it isn't tosh, mate. Everton and Arsenal have made their mistakes once, not twice. Arsenal's may end up working out. The Ozil one isn't easy with him valuing himself above what any sane person will offer. But Arsenal have a successful business model from the football whereas we don't. Again, because other clubs have done the same, its excusable for us. Everton, Arsenal, Coventry, Portsmouth. Who will it be next time? Colchester? Rudi I’m saying tosh because you keep repeating your criticism of Parish on every thread,move on. He cocked up with Frank,why he didn’t just build on Sams team, Which Roy is doing now is beyond me. Plus a striker. It’s all about Winning in this league. Someone had to lose,and at the moment we are on a bad run. The three promoted teams are all doing great,at the moment. Long way to go. Palace 13th 2017/18.
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alaneagle1

Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 23 Oct 17 2.03pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

The current situation says it isn't tosh, mate.

Again, because other clubs have done the same, its excusable for us. Everton, Arsenal, Coventry, Portsmouth. Who will it be next time? Colchester?

Rudi I’m saying tosh because you keep repeating your criticism of Parish on every thread,move on.
He cocked up with Frank,why he didn’t just build on Sams team,
Which Roy is doing now is beyond me.
Plus a striker.
It’s all about Winning in this league.
Someone had to lose,and at the moment we are on a bad run.
The three promoted teams are all doing great,at the moment.
Long way to go.

Palace 13th 2017/18.

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