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View Pikester's Profile Pikester Flag Worthing 29 Oct 17 7.37pm Send a Private Message to Pikester Add Pikester as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Think I would still choose the 1990-1992 John Salako and pre-injury plsyer over Wilf but only by the width of a pubic hair

When Johnny Salad broke into the England team he was absolutely on fire then cruelly injured and never reached that peak again. He was a great crosser of the ball though.

As has been said - if Wilf was to perform at this level for the rest of this season and maybe next then it would be very difficult not to have him in an All Time Palace XI.

He is carrying us at the moment and just needs to score more regularly and then the rest of the football world will be all over him.

These threads do make me laugh though - it's like reading Youtube comments when someone says Abba were better than the Beatles!

 


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View ARGILE OLD GEEZER's Profile ARGILE OLD GEEZER Flag PORTIMAO 30 Oct 17 7.31am Send a Private Message to ARGILE OLD GEEZER Add ARGILE OLD GEEZER as a friend

Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle

You beat me to it - the best 2 players ever to play for Palace - Kenny Sansom and Ian Wright, no if's, buts or why for's.

My Dad would argue Johnny Byrne - but I'm sure only because he was his captain in the academy/junior side. So way before my time - older HOL'ers may have a view.

Then you have IMO the likes of Jim Cannon, Billy Gilbert, Peter Nicholas, Nigel Martyn, Geoff Thomas, Vince Hilaire, Mark Bright, Nathaniel Clyne, Victor Moses etc..

One of personal favourites Jerry Murphy - such a sweet left peg....!!

Think Wilf is getting close - but as others have said needs consistency and longevity - if he achieves that it would be hard to argue he wouldn't be in the top 3 after King Ken and Sir Ian.

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Don't take anything away from Johnny Byrne , your Dad was right, he was great, playing for England (when they were a top team) when Palace were in the 4th Division,only an exceptional player could do that

 

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View Andy_G's Profile Andy_G Flag Wimbledon 30 Oct 17 8.37am Send a Private Message to Andy_G Add Andy_G as a friend

The best player ever to wear a Palace shirt in my time (since 77). I'm looking at it that he'll only be at Palace for a few more months so enjoy every performance he gives.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Oct 17 8.55am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

I don't ever remember Salako saving our &rses like Zaha is doing or us having a minor minor chance without him. When did we ever sing 'He's just too good for you?'

 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 30 Oct 17 10.20am

Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle

You beat me to it - the best 2 players ever to play for Palace - Kenny Sansom and Ian Wright, no if's, buts or why for's.

My Dad would argue Johnny Byrne - but I'm sure only because he was his captain in the academy/junior side. So way before my time - older HOL'ers may have a view.

Then you have IMO the likes of Jim Cannon, Billy Gilbert, Peter Nicholas, Nigel Martyn, Geoff Thomas, Vince Hilaire, Mark Bright, Nathaniel Clyne, Victor Moses etc..

One of personal favourites Jerry Murphy - such a sweet left peg....!!

Think Wilf is getting close - but as others have said needs consistency and longevity - if he achieves that it would be hard to argue he wouldn't be in the top 3 after King Ken and Sir Ian.

COYP

Many of the players you mention above are also favs of mine, however you could not possibly suggest that players like Murphy or Nicholas are anywhere near as good as Wilf.

 


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michaelpearce Flag grays 30 Oct 17 11.22am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I don't ever remember Salako saving our &rses like Zaha is doing or us having a minor minor chance without him. When did we ever sing 'He's just too good for you?'

well you must be to young he covered lots of ground in attack and defence and in goal we had a stronger team all round, and he did try to carry us after wrighty had gone, sally played more attacking roll then thats how he done his knee i still wince seeing his leg go the wrong way, and we did sing his name not whats being sung for wilf but that is a new chant if you base it on chants then hilaires was better but not pc

 

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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 30 Oct 17 12.29pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by michaelpearce

well you must be to young he covered lots of ground in attack and defence and in goal we had a stronger team all round, and he did try to carry us after wrighty had gone, sally played more attacking roll then thats how he done his knee i still wince seeing his leg go the wrong way, and we did sing his name not whats being sung for wilf but that is a new chant if you base it on chants then hilaires was better but not pc

Agreed. John was just so solid in attack and defence as a wing back. Outstanding really. And when we came third he was certainly one of the best in a first XI packed with some genuinely very good players. Wilf is the stand out player in a first XI with only two or three very good players.

And John's time was when the rules of football favoured the defences before they were changed to favour the attackers.

Wilf is fantastic and so was John. But if either of them were chosen to play for today's very top teams Bayern or Juve or PSG then I would have to say John is the one who would fit in more.

 


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View Andy_G's Profile Andy_G Flag Wimbledon 30 Oct 17 1.49pm Send a Private Message to Andy_G Add Andy_G as a friend

Salako was a good player but not in the same league as Wilf. Salako had the benefit of a good side around him but Zaha is practically carrying the club on his own. If we stay up it'll be the greatest achievement in the clubs history by their greatest ever player. 39 years of going to Palace and I don't believe I will ever see a player better than Wilf in another 39.

 


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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 30 Oct 17 3.11pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

It's so hard to compare players across eras, isn't it? Wilf is just a joy to watch and I think he loves playing for the club (no doubt the ~£110-120k a week probably doesn't hurt).

In my lifetime of watching, Wrightie and Wilf would be the ones. Genuinely special talents who just had something in their DNA that others don't -- a fire to make a difference. Salako really didn't do it over a sustained period. He'd just got there and then got injured and never scaled those same heights ever again. Very sad, really.

I've heard it said that Johnny Byrne was something.

Btw, the idea that we don't have really classy players is daft. We have many.

 


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Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

It's so hard to compare players across eras, isn't it? Wilf is just a joy to watch and I think he loves playing for the club (no doubt the ~£110-120k a week probably doesn't hurt).

In my lifetime of watching, Wrightie and Wilf would be the ones. Genuinely special talents who just had something in their DNA that others don't -- a fire to make a difference. Salako really didn't do it over a sustained period. He'd just got there and then got injured and never scaled those same heights ever again. Very sad, really.

I've heard it said that Johnny Byrne was something.

Btw, the idea that we don't have really classy players is daft. We have many.

Wilf, Andros, Mamadou and....?

The rest are trailing that trio surely?

 


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View palacenomatterwhat's Profile palacenomatterwhat Flag Kings Lynn 30 Oct 17 6.52pm Send a Private Message to palacenomatterwhat Add palacenomatterwhat as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Wilf, Andros, Mamadou and....?

The rest are trailing that trio surely?

I still rate Ian Wright up there for us, he was excitingly classy you didn't know what he would do and although that is similar to Wilf, Wrighty did it over a period of time for us, I was gutted when he left for Arsenal. I think Wilf has the potential to be better, I'd just like to see his goal ratio go up

 


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View Joe Bloggs's Profile Joe Bloggs Flag Nr Norwich 30 Oct 17 6.55pm Send a Private Message to Joe Bloggs Add Joe Bloggs as a friend

Byrne...Wright and Sansom played High level international football,Byrne played on dreadful pitches and was the clever player who had the ability to improve other players...notably Geoff Hurst.

Wilf is an exciting player perhaps not quite at that level yet and he certainly plays in a much tougher league ....he is very close but needs to create more chances and score more goals.Perhaps in another couple of seasons.

 

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