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Rudi Hedman Caterham 04 Nov 17 11.24pm
Originally posted by Casual He’s in a purple patch at the moment , that won’t last . But reckon he will be about til his late 30s. Not always starting , but like crouch (who’s scored 3 from the bench this season). He will probably be worth a minimum of 8 points this year. Twice the player that gayle was , one injury and gayle will be finished, with less pace. Shame. Wish he was still one of ours. True, but he wanted to play. Maybe if we had fewer forwards he may have stayed. We had Wickham (just signed so intended no 1), Gayle, Campbell, Bumfluff. Have I got that right? He is in a purple patch, I've seen all but of his recent 4 goals and 1 was a penalty and the defending v Swansea was a joke, as it was on the 18 yard line from the free kick v West Ham. He's in the right place at the right time but so would Benteke or Wickham for those 2 and we have penalty takers for the penalty. I haven't seen a classic Murray goal yet. Nipping into a space and meeting the ball with a deft touch or outsmarting defenders. They've been vs complete dross defending. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 04 Nov 17 11.24pm

Originally posted by Casual

He’s in a purple patch at the moment , that won’t last . But reckon he will be about til his late 30s. Not always starting , but like crouch (who’s scored 3 from the bench this season).
He will probably be worth a minimum of 8 points this year. Twice the player that gayle was , one injury and gayle will be finished, with less pace.
Shame. Wish he was still one of ours.

True, but he wanted to play. Maybe if we had fewer forwards he may have stayed. We had Wickham (just signed so intended no 1), Gayle, Campbell, Bumfluff. Have I got that right?

He is in a purple patch, I've seen all but of his recent 4 goals and 1 was a penalty and the defending v Swansea was a joke, as it was on the 18 yard line from the free kick v West Ham. He's in the right place at the right time but so would Benteke or Wickham for those 2 and we have penalty takers for the penalty.

I haven't seen a classic Murray goal yet. Nipping into a space and meeting the ball with a deft touch or outsmarting defenders. They've been vs complete dross defending.

COYP

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Casual Orpington 04 Nov 17 11.48pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman True, but he wanted to play. Maybe if we had fewer forwards he may have stayed. We had Wickham (just signed so intended no 1), Gayle, Campbell, Bumfluff. Have I got that right? He is in a purple patch, I've seen all but of his recent 4 goals and 1 was a penalty and the defending v Swansea was a joke, as it was on the 18 yard line from the free kick v West Ham. He's in the right place at the right time but so would Benteke or Wickham for those 2 and we have penalty takers for the penalty. I haven't seen a classic Murray goal yet. Nipping into a space and meeting the ball with a deft touch or outsmarting defenders. They've been vs complete dross defending. That’s the point though , why was an unproven Wickham our intended number 1 ? After what Murray had done for us? Because he was younger , smothered in tattoos, got a glamour model bird and a Bentley and a bit more ‘premier league’ than the ageing , bald Murray? Not saying murray would be nailed on to start for us every game now, if all are fit. But he should have been given the chance 2 years ago. Was disappointed at the time,if a player of Bentekes calibre (not this season) had been signed, then fair enough, but a player that Sunderland didn’t think was good enough to play as a 9, so shoved him out on the wing? Not for me.
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Casual

Orpington 04 Nov 17 11.48pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

True, but he wanted to play. Maybe if we had fewer forwards he may have stayed. We had Wickham (just signed so intended no 1), Gayle, Campbell, Bumfluff. Have I got that right?

I haven't seen a classic Murray goal yet. Nipping into a space and meeting the ball with a deft touch or outsmarting defenders. They've been vs complete dross defending.

That’s the point though , why was an unproven Wickham our intended number 1 ? After what Murray had done for us? Because he was younger , smothered in tattoos, got a glamour model bird and a Bentley and a bit more ‘premier league’ than the ageing , bald Murray? Not saying murray would be nailed on to start for us every game now, if all are fit. But he should have been given the chance 2 years ago.
Was disappointed at the time,if a player of Bentekes calibre (not this season) had been signed, then fair enough, but a player that Sunderland didn’t think was good enough to play as a 9, so shoved him out on the wing? Not for me.

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Eaglecoops CR3 05 Nov 17 11.24am
Originally posted by Goldfiinger He didn't want to be a back up striker on the bench.... THATS WHY HE LEFT. You are missing my point. He was young enough then, he is not now. He was good enough to play regularly then, he is not now. Got it.... good
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Eaglecoops

CR3 05 Nov 17 11.24am

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

He didn't want to be a back up striker on the bench....

THATS WHY HE LEFT.

You are missing my point. He was young enough then, he is not now. He was good enough to play regularly then, he is not now. Got it.... good

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Jacey 05 Nov 17 11.53am
Originally posted by Eaglecoops You are missing my point. He was young enough then, he is not now. He was good enough to play regularly then, he is not now. Got it.... good BUT,Murray has scored more goals than our entire team put together and his vital goals have taken BHA up to 8th place.
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Jacey

05 Nov 17 11.53am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

You are missing my point. He was young enough then, he is not now. He was good enough to play regularly then, he is not now. Got it.... good

BUT,Murray has scored more goals than our entire team put together and his vital goals have taken BHA up to 8th place.

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pompeyeagle Relocated to Shropshire 05 Nov 17 12.54pm
Getting rid of Murray was a big mistake but I can’t see the point in bringing the subject up every time he scores a goal. In hindsight we should have kept him but if Wickham and Benteke were fit he would be sitting on the bench every week not getting a look in.
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Relocated to Shropshire 05 Nov 17 12.54pm

Getting rid of Murray was a big mistake but I can’t see the point in bringing the subject up every time he scores a goal. In hindsight we should have kept him but if Wickham and Benteke were fit he would be sitting on the bench every week not getting a look in.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 05 Nov 17 1.02pm
Originally posted by pompeyeagle Getting rid of Murray was a big mistake but I can’t see the point in bringing the subject up every time he scores a goal. In hindsight we should have kept him but if Wickham and Benteke were fit he would be sitting on the bench every week not getting a look in. Probably true. I think another key factor was Gayle refusing to drop down to the championship when Bristol city made a bid. One really had to go but where was the analysis, scouting and 'DUE DILIGENCE' on Bumfluff? A 'boring' time for Pardew at training around that time? COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 05 Nov 17 1.02pm

Originally posted by pompeyeagle

Probably true.

I think another key factor was Gayle refusing to drop down to the championship when Bristol city made a bid. One really had to go but where was the analysis, scouting and 'DUE DILIGENCE' on Bumfluff? A 'boring' time for Pardew at training around that time?

COYP

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Gary St.Andrews Kenley 05 Nov 17 5.33pm
We have had some good transfer dealings and we have had some bad ones. Selling GM wasn't one of the better decisions. He was supposed to be past his best, too slow etc. But he was quality then and he has still got it. What's the saying about the first yard of pace is in the mind. Good luck to him, apart from when we play them at the end of the month..
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We have had some good transfer dealings and we have had some bad ones. Selling GM wasn't one of the better decisions. He was supposed to be past his best, too slow etc. But he was quality then and he has still got it. What's the saying about the first yard of pace is in the mind.

Good luck to him, apart from when we play them at the end of the month..

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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 05 Nov 17 9.51pm
Originally posted by pompeyeagle Getting rid of Murray was a big mistake but I can’t see the point in bringing the subject up every time he scores a goal. In hindsight we should have kept him but if Wickham and Benteke were fit he would be sitting on the bench every week not getting a look in. You maybe right BUT Benteke isnt fit and Wickham NEVER is fit!
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The garden of England.(not really) 05 Nov 17 9.51pm

Originally posted by pompeyeagle

You maybe right BUT Benteke isnt fit and Wickham NEVER is fit!

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Goldfiinger Just down the road 05 Nov 17 11.41pm
Originally posted by pompeyeagle Getting rid of Murray was a big mistake but I can’t see the point in bringing the subject up every time he scores a goal. In hindsight we should have kept him but if Wickham and Benteke were fit he would be sitting on the bench every week not getting a look in. Which is why he asked to leave and why he asked to leave Bournemouth when he couldn't get game time with them. He chose not to fight for his place. He chose to leave.... Good luck to him, but I honestly it was his choice to leave.
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Goldfiinger

Just down the road 05 Nov 17 11.41pm

Originally posted by pompeyeagle

Which is why he asked to leave and why he asked to leave Bournemouth when he couldn't get game time with them.

He chose not to fight for his place. He chose to leave....

Good luck to him, but I honestly it was his choice to leave.

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Goldfiinger Just down the road 05 Nov 17 11.53pm
Originally posted by the silurian You maybe right BUT Benteke isnt fit and Wickham NEVER is fit! So we should have kept Murray against his will for how long until this situation arose? its a bit silly when you think about it....
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Goldfiinger

Just down the road 05 Nov 17 11.53pm

Originally posted by the silurian

You maybe right BUT Benteke isnt fit and Wickham NEVER is fit!

So we should have kept Murray against his will for how long until this situation arose?

its a bit silly when you think about it....

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The Dolphin 06 Nov 17 6.51am
Premier League 2017-2018 season Glenn Murray - 9 appearances - 4 goals Crystal Palace FC - 11 appearances - 4 goals Thanks Alan!
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