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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 04 Nov 17 10.01pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

So disabled people shouldn't have a national day where our footballers wear there symbol and we buy and wear flowers for them?

Only injured/dead soldiers?

Not saying they shouldn't just questioning why others shouldn't as well.

Edited by Goldfiinger (04 Nov 2017 9.53pm)

Well people fought & died for you to say that. Its a free country & if you feel that strongly about this cause maybe start a campaign?

 


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View Casual's Profile Casual Flag Orpington 04 Nov 17 10.41pm Send a Private Message to Casual Add Casual as a friend

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

So disabled people shouldn't have a national day where our footballers wear there symbol and we buy and wear flowers for them?

Only injured/dead soldiers?

Not saying they shouldn't just questioning why others shouldn't as well.

Edited by Goldfiinger (04 Nov 2017 9.53pm)

The point is that the servicemen have fought and died for our way of life /safety. The disabled have their Poppy Day, every day by getting the best parking spaces. I am of course joking.

 

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View Goldfiinger's Profile Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 04 Nov 17 11.10pm Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Well people fought & died for you to say that. Its a free country & if you feel that strongly about this cause maybe start a campaign?

I completely support Poppy day, for me to say that others in need should be supported in a similar fashion does NOT mean i don't support our armed services or Poppy day.

That's all.

 

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View palace777's Profile palace777 Flag belfast 04 Nov 17 11.16pm Send a Private Message to palace777 Add palace777 as a friend

I am a proud Irishman and I wear a poppy to recognise that my grandfather (another proud Irishman) gave his life in 1917 on the Western Front.
I also believe everyone has the right to choose not to wear one without any pressure.
That is what my grandfather fought and died for.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 04 Nov 17 11.49pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by richard shaw (og)65

i noticed that daniel sturrridge wasn't wearing a poppy on his shirt at the weekend , he doesn't seem to have been dug out for it like james maclean has.

Edited by richard shaw (og)65 (04 Nov 2017 11.16am)

Odd. He laid a wreath last year.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 04 Nov 17 11.59pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by palace777

I am a proud Irishman and I wear a poppy to recognise that my grandfather (another proud Irishman) gave his life in 1917 on the Western Front.
I also believe everyone has the right to choose not to wear one without any pressure.
That is what my grandfather fought and died for.

Respect to your grandfather.

I also respect this tradition but yes, compulsion is rarely helpful, though I do believe criticism is fair comment.

People have freedom to comment or not to comment.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Nov 2017 12.04am)

 


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View EagleEssex's Profile EagleEssex Flag Essex 05 Nov 17 1.58am Send a Private Message to EagleEssex Add EagleEssex as a friend

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

What is politically correct about remembering the war dead ?

I hear your point, and realise it doesn't fit into the usual PC mould. Furthermore I personally support this charity, so I can be objective.
The reason I described it as politically correct is because of the mass hysteria stirred up by anyone who doesn't want to wear the poppy, ie James McClean, as much as I disagree with his politics, Id be a hypocrite if I didn't agree his treatment by the media waa harsh. Everyone is free to support charities and political causes but it should never be obligatory in sport.
There's one thing however that I think should be respected and that is respect to the national anthem of the country being played in, which is why I vehemently disagree to the "take a knee" trend in the USA right now.

 

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View Thegamesafoot's Profile Thegamesafoot Flag Somewhere but Nowhere 05 Nov 17 3.06am Send a Private Message to Thegamesafoot Add Thegamesafoot as a friend

Could be worse, could be Croat/Serb living memory war rather than remembering 100 WW1 70 years WW2

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 05 Nov 17 7.54am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by phillanth

"..his friends in the IRA were allies of the Nazis."

And your evidence for this is?

I didn't cite evidence because I assumed (wrongly) that it was well known about links between the IRA and the Nazis. I don't want to derail this thread from the original question so this is my fault for mentioning it. A quick look on Wikipedia (below) gives some context although not everyone will accept that as a valid source. There are plenty of other history books and websites so take your pick.

Anyway my bad and I repeat I am fine with people not wearing a poppy it is their choice.

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 05 Nov 17 8.07am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Just a point about ‘compulsion’. Surely it’s the football club that decides to sport the poppy on its shirts, and if players want to play for their club then that’s the shirt they wear that week. If a player was opposed to gambling, they wouldn’t get a choice about wearing a shirt with a betting firm’s logo in it, would they?

When I see a team wearing the poppy on its shirts I see it as the club making a gesture, not the individual players.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 05 Nov 17 8.28am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by EagleEssex

The reason I described it as politically correct is because of the mass hysteria stirred up by anyone who doesn't want to wear the poppy, ie James McClean, as much as I disagree with his politics, Id be a hypocrite if I didn't agree his treatment by the media waa harsh.

It's very sad that he refuses to honour those that died to that he could earn a small fortune from their descendants every week

 

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View Slimey Toad's Profile Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 05 Nov 17 9.12am Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

Growing up the whole point of poppies was to make a conscious effort to go and pay for one, then wear it. This made it more of a worthwhile and respectful act.

My suggestion to footballers. On Remembrance weekend you are given the choice of a shirt with a poppy and one without. If you want to wear the poppy-emblazoned on you have to donate £ ........ to the Poppy Appeal.

 

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