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View Bexley Eagle's Profile Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 06 Nov 17 11.27am Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

Yesterday my son was involved in a clash of heads in a football match which resulted in his eye swelling like a football. As the game was being played 3 mins down the road from Darent Valley hospital I thought I would take him to A&E. I am not a regular in such places and cant remember the last time I went to A & E.
So how was my experience? I was welcomed by the receptionist who basically gave an indication that there was a lot of children in today (my son is 15 so still classed as a child). When I went through to the waiting room I was shocked by the number of children waiting. I was even more shocked by the number of people actually speaking English. After waiting an hour and not seeing anyone and no sign of any progress I gave up and went home as his ice pack was no longer cold.
I have no idea if this is a typical day in A&E and I wasn't aware that the Dartford area has a particularly high level of Polish residents. Maybe this is the latest craze that has replaced car boot sales on a sunday morning.
Anyway needless to say having paid taxes all my working life (35 years) I felt slightly aggrieved that the one time I actually needed some assistance I couldn't get it.
Given that he can't open his eye currently I will try again this afternoon. Hopefully I will have more success.

 

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View elgrande's Profile elgrande Flag bedford 06 Nov 17 10.38pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Apparently a significant number of Japs either don't like, or want, sex.

With a population of 127 million on four small islands it's perhaps better to have your 3 feet of space to yourself.....


Following on from that,Japanese women are by far the most likely to own at least one sex toy,so i deduce its the men that have the problem.

 


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View tome's Profile tome Flag Inner Tantalus Time. 07 Nov 17 9.24am Send a Private Message to tome Add tome as a friend

Originally posted by Park Road

Firstly, nothing wrong with immigration in moderation its absolutely necessary.
Yes, immigration as well as homegrown terrorists, from immigrant parents, does contribute to terrorism in our country and do i think that we have a terrorism problem doesn't deserve an answer.
Remember we're talking about Islamic terrorist so its much deeper than just plain old immigration its a well known ideology spread around many countries not just UK.
Minority problem if its just 1% of the Muslim population is well over the ten million mark so a vast minority.
So no not just an argument of immigration.
Do you think if we had adopted the same immigration policy as Japan,that we would have this so called "BBC language and maybe yours" Islamic terrorist problem?

Oh and Jamie you are obviously very intellectual so don't Mar it with the old is it UK foreign policy apologist rhetoric

Religious fairy tails and how people act them out has nothing to do with any countries foreign policy

Why are you so anxious to remove foreign policy from the list of causes? If a country's armed forces or politics resulted in the destruction of your land or your family, you'd be pretty angry about it too, no?

 


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Park Road Flag 07 Nov 17 11.15am

Originally posted by tome

Why are you so anxious to remove foreign policy from the list of causes? If a country's armed forces or politics resulted in the destruction of your land or your family, you'd be pretty angry about it too, no?




Yes, I probably would. I would also say most countries hold grudges against other countries foreign policies and still have little arguments about it. Ukraine and Russia, pakistan/India to name but a few.
Not sure if you finished reading my post but at the bottom I put something on the lines - that its to do with religious rhetoric and grooming of the easily led.
Islamic terrorism wants a world caliphate which is their belief from a certain book they read.
Otherwise they are pi$$ed off with every single countries foreign policy.

Maybe there is a verse in Koran that talks about our foreign policy, but I wouldn't bet on it

Edited by Park Road (07 Nov 2017 11.19am)

 

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Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

Yesterday my son was involved in a clash of heads in a football match which resulted in his eye swelling like a football. As the game was being played 3 mins down the road from Darent Valley hospital I thought I would take him to A&E. I am not a regular in such places and cant remember the last time I went to A & E.
So how was my experience? I was welcomed by the receptionist who basically gave an indication that there was a lot of children in today (my son is 15 so still classed as a child). When I went through to the waiting room I was shocked by the number of children waiting. I was even more shocked by the number of people actually speaking English. After waiting an hour and not seeing anyone and no sign of any progress I gave up and went home as his ice pack was no longer cold.
I have no idea if this is a typical day in A&E and I wasn't aware that the Dartford area has a particularly high level of Polish residents. Maybe this is the latest craze that has replaced car boot sales on a sunday morning.
Anyway needless to say having paid taxes all my working life (35 years) I felt slightly aggrieved that the one time I actually needed some assistance I couldn't get it.
Given that he can't open his eye currently I will try again this afternoon. Hopefully I will have more success.

People don't want to hear the reality of our wonderful new mass immigration multicultural country. They would rather believe massaged statistics.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 07 Nov 17 11.49am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

People don't want to hear the reality of our wonderful new mass immigration multicultural country. They would rather believe massaged statistics.

Is it, I think it has more to do with the government (this and previous, including Labours) failure to adequately provide public services by taxing the corporate profiteering that occurred due to EU migration.

Nothing to do with multiculturalism - its about how governments keep businesses happy, at the expense of taxpayers.

Those Polish people queuing also have paid national insurance and tax, and are getting as s**t a deal as anyone else.

I don't care if you're from a family that can trace its roots back to Boudica's great auntie or someone who's come here to work for two years. Your paying tax and national insurance, and in return getting a sh*ttier service - despite those 500,000 or so working EU migrants paying tax and national insurance.

Government in the UK has long since abdicated responsibility to citizens and taxpayers in the UK to suck the corporate c*ck.

 


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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Is it, I think it has more to do with the government (this and previous, including Labours) failure to adequately provide public services by taxing the corporate profiteering that occurred due to EU migration.

Nothing to do with multiculturalism - its about how governments keep businesses happy, at the expense of taxpayers.

Those Polish people queuing also have paid national insurance and tax, and are getting as s**t a deal as anyone else.

I don't care if you're from a family that can trace its roots back to Boudica's great auntie or someone who's come here to work for two years. Your paying tax and national insurance, and in return getting a sh*ttier service - despite those 500,000 or so working EU migrants paying tax and national insurance.

Government in the UK has long since abdicated responsibility to citizens and taxpayers in the UK to suck the corporate c*ck.

And as usual, you conveniently overlook the obvious fact that the pressure on services could have been avoided but not having a huge influx of people in the first place.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 07 Nov 17 12.01pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Is it, I think it has more to do with the government (this and previous, including Labours) failure to adequately provide public services by taxing the corporate profiteering that occurred due to EU migration.

Nothing to do with multiculturalism - its about how governments keep businesses happy, at the expense of taxpayers.

Those Polish people queuing also have paid national insurance and tax, and are getting as s**t a deal as anyone else.

I don't care if you're from a family that can trace its roots back to Boudica's great auntie or someone who's come here to work for two years. Your paying tax and national insurance, and in return getting a sh*ttier service - despite those 500,000 or so working EU migrants paying tax and national insurance.

Government in the UK has long since abdicated responsibility to citizens and taxpayers in the UK to suck the corporate c*ck.

Do agree with that.

Bullseye.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 07 Nov 17 12.02pm

Originally posted by Park Road




Yes, I probably would. I would also say most countries hold grudges against other countries foreign policies and still have little arguments about it. Ukraine and Russia, pakistan/India to name but a few.
Not sure if you finished reading my post but at the bottom I put something on the lines - that its to do with religious rhetoric and grooming of the easily led.
Islamic terrorism wants a world caliphate which is their belief from a certain book they read.
Otherwise they are pi$$ed off with every single countries foreign policy.

Maybe there is a verse in Koran that talks about our foreign policy, but I wouldn't bet on it

Edited by Park Road (07 Nov 2017 11.19am)

Not really, most Islamists couldn't really give a frick about a world caliphate, their very much focused on re-establishing the old Caliphate (from the Rushidan to Alomad - around 600 AD to 13AD) - in the Arabian peninsular - Centred around the holy city of Mecca

There probably are some who are in view of a global caliphate, but most when they talk about that its about the idea that all Muslims see themselves as a part of the Caliphate no matter where they live (and by all Muslims they mean Sunni).

Realistically, the European and US foreign policy, rightly or wrongly, is what brings Islamists into conflict with the West - Notably around Saudi which is considered sacred land and Kuwait. These days even the Palestine Israeli issue seems to be negligible in terms of how Islamists view the US and Europe.

Al-Qaeda's issue with the US stems from the US troops being based in Saudi Arabia (being non-Muslims in the holy land indefinitely).

In truth, they'd probably be more than happy to be left alone in their caliphate. That said, we also shouldn't be drawn into doing that either due to the humanitarian crisis it would create.

 


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Park Road Flag 07 Nov 17 12.50pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Not really, most Islamists couldn't really give a frick about a world caliphate, their very much focused on re-establishing the old Caliphate (from the Rushidan to Alomad - around 600 AD to 13AD) - in the Arabian peninsular - Centred around the holy city of Mecca

There probably are some who are in view of a global caliphate, but most when they talk about that its about the idea that all Muslims see themselves as a part of the Caliphate no matter where they live (and by all Muslims they mean Sunni).

Realistically, the European and US foreign policy, rightly or wrongly, is what brings Islamists into conflict with the West - Notably around Saudi which is considered sacred land and Kuwait. These days even the Palestine Israeli issue seems to be negligible in terms of how Islamists view the US and Europe.

Al-Qaeda's issue with the US stems from the US troops being based in Saudi Arabia (being non-Muslims in the holy land indefinitely).

In truth, they'd probably be more than happy to be left alone in their caliphate. That said, we also shouldn't be drawn into doing that either due to the humanitarian crisis it would create.

Is that fact or just your opinion?I
thought a worldwide caliphate is the concept of a single one-world government, supported in particular by a certain Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of the Islamic state and other extremist groups.
It was this or them I was referring to. In other words Islamic terrorist groups.
What the rest of Islam want I wouldn't be as bold to say much ,only that when dealing with religious belief the book is gospel so to speak.

So, this worldwide domination of Islam which has been promised by Allah ( does not necessarily mean that every single person on earth will become Muslim. When we say that Islam will dominate the world, we mean as a political system, as the messenger Muhammad (saw) prophesised that the authority on earth will belong to the Muslims, i.e. the believers will be in power and the Sharee’ah of Islam will be implemented in every corner of the earth. 

So , if that's what their god wants that's what their believers want too I.e. all of Islam.
That's my opinion BTW

 

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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Not really, most Islamists couldn't really give a frick about a world caliphate, their very much focused on re-establishing the old Caliphate (from the Rushidan to Alomad - around 600 AD to 13AD) - in the Arabian peninsular - Centred around the holy city of Mecca

There probably are some who are in view of a global caliphate, but most when they talk about that its about the idea that all Muslims see themselves as a part of the Caliphate no matter where they live (and by all Muslims they mean Sunni).

Realistically, the European and US foreign policy, rightly or wrongly, is what brings Islamists into conflict with the West - Notably around Saudi which is considered sacred land and Kuwait. These days even the Palestine Israeli issue seems to be negligible in terms of how Islamists view the US and Europe.

Al-Qaeda's issue with the US stems from the US troops being based in Saudi Arabia (being non-Muslims in the holy land indefinitely).

In truth, they'd probably be more than happy to be left alone in their caliphate. That said, we also shouldn't be drawn into doing that either due to the humanitarian crisis it would create.

So with hat little statement about Saudi,you are saying Muslims dont want non muslims living permanently in saudi arabia,Am I right?

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 07 Nov 17 3.31pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

And as usual, you conveniently overlook the obvious fact that the pressure on services could have been avoided but not having a huge influx of people in the first place.

Don't disagree with that, what I'm saying is that the government knew and expected that increase in pressure on services and did nothing, except to cut taxes and corporate taxes.

Prior to the credit crunch, there was probably a case for that migration level, given the economic boom the UK was in.

Problem of hospital waiting lists though aren't down to legal migrants using them, but governments failure to properly fund and equip the NHS to fulfil its role.

Role of government is to govern, not to win elections.

 


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