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Park Road Flag 11 Nov 17 12.51pm

Originally posted by cryrst

I wasn't specifying Islamic terror at all.
I was asking whether by the overuse of attacks
Is society pretty much immune to the shock it used to cause. I know Islamic terror is prevelant now it wasn't in the past for us, it was the IRA years ago.
And after a while that seemed overused to Make a point and it is being / has been resolved by talking.
That being said in years to come maybe Islamic terror will be resolved the same way.[/quote


It depends on what kind of terrorism we are talking about. Is it systematic use of terror, manifesting itself in violence or intimidation, for generating fear. Normally used by Islamic groups or a
technique used by Governments to manipulate public opinion in order to further an agenda.

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

I wasn't specifying Islamic terror at all.
I was asking whether by the overuse of attacks
Is society pretty much immune to the shock it used to cause. I know Islamic terror is prevelant now it wasn't in the past for us, it was the IRA years ago.
And after a while that seemed overused to Make a point and it is being / has been resolved by talking.
That being said in years to come maybe Islamic terror will be resolved the same way.

There are interesting discussions to be had on the different ways that Islamic terrorism would be vastly reduced.

However when you refer to the IRA and what happened there you have to recognise that Irish republicanism and Islamism are two completely different worldviews with wholly different types of end games.

This idea that we haven't tried talking isn't accurate. We spoke to the Taliban who would listen. Much money changed hands trying this strategy.

IS for example have already addressed points like yours...titled deliberately to answer these questions, 'why we hate you', 'why we fight you'.

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This has probably been kept from you by the filtering that goes on by some media and most political groups who don't want you thinking about this stuff. Some people self filter because they don't want to know or reject it because it runs counter to their politics....People are free to their own politics but when this topic comes up and questions asked...people deserve to hear reality.

By the way, we haven't resolved nothing in Ireland. We have an agreement with the majority of republicans and power sharing in NI....that's the extent of it.....people have been murdered since and security and intelligence services are still engaged.


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There are interesting discussions to be had on the different ways that Islamic terrorism would be vastly reduced.

However when you refer to the IRA and what happened there you have to recognise that Irish republicanism and Islamism are two completely different worldviews with wholly different types of end games.

This idea that we haven't tried talking isn't accurate. We spoke to the Taliban who would listen. Much money changed hands trying this strategy.

IS for example have already addressed points like yours...titled deliberately to answer these questions, 'why we hate you', 'why we fight you'.

[Link]

This has probably been kept from you by the filtering that goes on by some media and most political groups who don't want you thinking about this stuff. Some people self filter because they don't want to know or reject it because it runs counter to their politics....People are free to their own politics but when this topic comes up and questions asked...people deserve to hear reality.

By the way, we haven't resolved nothing in Ireland. We have an agreement with the majority of republicans and power sharing in NI....that's the extent of it.....people have been murdered since and security and intelligence services are still engaged.


Yes but it is nowhere near the scale it was before the talks.
As I first posted have we become immune and less shocked by it in any form that we see terrorism as.
Personally the political form as stated; with propoganda and non disclosure is not the type I'm referring to.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Nov 2017 2.52pm)

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

This might be true for you and others but I haven't become used to it.

I have two small boys growing up into this and I'm most definitely not immune to what awaits them.

As I say, a lot of filtering goes on.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Nov 2017 6.06pm)

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 11 Nov 17 7.20pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

This might be true for you and others but I haven't become used to it.

I have two small boys growing up into this and I'm most definitely not immune to what awaits them.

As I say, a lot of filtering goes on.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Nov 2017 6.06pm)

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Should never get 'used to it', it's vile, but also shouldn't let it affect you so much that you become irrational, paranoid and thus bigoted to others who have nothing to do with it and are just disgusted by it as much.

 


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Originally posted by Kermit8

Should never get 'used to it', it's vile, but also shouldn't let it affect you so much that you become irrational, paranoid and thus bigoted to others who have nothing to do with it and are just disgusted by it as much.

My point Kermit and Stirling
Everyday life goes on.it has to for our own sanity.
Young people way back had it too.
Think Omagh,enniskillen, and more.
BUT sadly we do get paranoid with focussing on a certain 'type' of person.
As we did then typically irish.
I remember on building sites the rows and fights about it after an 'event'shall we say.
Most of those hated it as well but were tarred with the brush as now.

 

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When my children are adults the Islamic percentage within the country will probably be around 15 percentage as it has been doubling every decade. The secularists among them are fine.

Still, with that increase the number of radicals will....well at least be double what it is now.

I'm not paranoid, that's just logical.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Nov 2017 11.43am)

 


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Originally posted by Kermit8

Should never get 'used to it', it's vile, but also shouldn't let it affect you so much that you become irrational, paranoid and thus bigoted to others who have nothing to do with it and are just disgusted by it as much.

Typical left wing strawman response.

Islamic reformers have a lot of criticism for your stance here. You should listen to them.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Nov 2017 11.41am)

 


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Originally posted by cryrst

My point Kermit and Stirling
Everyday life goes on.it has to for our own sanity.
Young people way back had it too.
Think Omagh,enniskillen, and more.
BUT sadly we do get paranoid with focussing on a certain 'type' of person.
As we did then typically irish.
I remember on building sites the rows and fights about it after an 'event'shall we say.
Most of those hated it as well but were tarred with the brush as now.

Hopefully you will be around in twenty years and be able to judge if your IRA/Islamism comparison made any sense.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

When my children are adults the Islamic percentage within the country will probably be around 15 percentage as it has been doubling every decade. The secularists among them are fine.

Still, with that increase the number of radicals will....well at least be double what it is now.

I'm not paranoid, that's just logical.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Nov 2017 11.43am)

The loopy left doesn't do logical. They would rather shove their heads up their own arses and hope it all goes away.
They somehow think that we deserve all the s*** that is heading our way for perceived crimes of the past.

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Hopefully you will be around in twenty years and be able to judge if your IRA/Islamism comparison made any sense.


I'm not on about the amount of attacks.
Which are more frequent I know
Just the fact it was around then.
I was evacuated from a couple of stations for bomb scares. In the end it was orderly and half expected occasionally.
Bit insulted by your reply I'm not a div Stirling.
Well I support palace so make your own conclusion on that.

 

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