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 CockneyRebel  West Harrison,NY. 21 Nov 17 6.27pm |
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A two game ban is not enough to stamp out this cheating way that now, more then ever, seems to be the way teams are being told by their Managers/coaches to play,if they can see that the only way to play, win, or draw, is to cheat... Of course people will say that my view is because I am a sore loser... Just a pity, that this happens to relate to our game on Saturday,but, I very strongly feel that the league should have the power to not only disallow any goal that results from that incident, as well as a 3 game ban for the player, AND, a financial punishment for manager/coaches of that club.. Harsh, you think? not at all, THAT, will make managers/coaches except responsibility for what they teach/train there players to do.. We keep going on at the officials..rightly so in many cases.. but, that incident on Saturday is one of soooooooooo many, not only for us, but other teams as well.. I am not trying to get them off the hook at all, but when you have a player like this who has the damn balls to laugh later in the game when he did something else that he got away with, we have to realize that they, the officials are human.. and they need our help in stamping this out once and for all..
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Willo  South coast - west of Brighton. 21 Nov 17 6.31pm |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
Those nice old-fashioned computer terminals with Unix text editors used to have a thing called a "kill ring". You could highlight some text and save it to a buffer, and then paste it into a document wherever and whenever you needed it again. Like Cut and Paste in Windows but you could keep lots of text snippets at once and use whichever one was needed on a given occasion, such as "Dear Sir", "Yours Faithfully", "Thank you for your letter of yesterday's date", or even "We regret to inform you that your application has been unsuccessful". Or, if you're Willo, the horses*** he has pasted here for the ten gazillionth time. I don't understand all that technical terminology etc etc. All I will say is that supporters always call for 'Consistency' in relation to refereeing decisions - I have been consistent in my posts on HOL and have to re-iterate my message when I believe it is appropriate to do so.
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| Direwolf Lincoln 21 Nov 17 6.34pm |
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Originally posted by lefty27
Whilst I am happy he has been charged I cannot see how it benefits us. We still dropped 2 points due to the penalty and his ban will be served against teams that we are close to...West Ham and Southampton, not really compensation for us. Agree - didn't Allardyce say something like this when the system was proposed?
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chateauferret  21 Nov 17 6.48pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I don't understand all that technical terminology etc etc. All I will say is that supporters always call for 'Consistency' in relation to refereeing decisions - I have been consistent in my posts on HOL and have to re-iterate the same old garbage ad nauseam. EFA.
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cryrst  The garden of England 21 Nov 17 8.24pm |
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The whole point of this procedure is to try to enlighten players into realising that cheaters will be found out.
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| JRW2 Dulwich 21 Nov 17 8.25pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
What Hodgson said : “I spoke to the referee about it and I’m pretty sure if I had been in his position on the field I might have given that decision too. So what Hodgson is saying that from Taylor's perspective it looked like a penalty but 'Slow-Mo' replays have suggested otherwise.
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| chateauferret 21 Nov 17 8.33pm |
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Originally posted by JRW2
What Hodgson said : “I spoke to the referee about it and I’m pretty sure if I had been in his position on the field I might have given that decision too. So what Hodgson is saying that from Taylor's perspective it looked like a penalty but 'Slow-Mo' replays have suggested otherwise.
He was quite clear after the game that it was a dive. Since the quoted remarks don't come with a link or any attribution, and given who posted them, I'd take them with a hefty dose of sodium chloride if I were you.
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| spartakev2 Anerley 21 Nov 17 11.43pm |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
He was quite clear after the game that it was a dive. Since the quoted remarks don't come with a link or any attribution, and given who posted them, I'd take them with a hefty dose of sodium chloride if I were you.
Actually he did say this. If was in one of his post match interviews. ...he was quite clear that it was a dive, but only after seeing it on the video.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 22 Nov 17 12.01am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
The whole point of this procedure is to try to enlighten players into realising that cheaters will be found out. didier drogba was found out. And he cried all the way to the bank.
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| Bullhorn76 Darlington 22 Nov 17 6.34am |
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It baffles me as to why Everton are contesting a unnaminous decision by three ex professionals if I were a top cog in the fa machine I’d say fine he doesn’t get banned for two games but you surrender the point you stole therefore awarding the match to Crystal Palace I think they may stick with the ban
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 22 Nov 17 7.26am |
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Originally posted by Willo
The whole match WILL be taken into account. There is a robust system for measuring the performance of the referee after each PL game. Each PL game is forensically evaluated where intense scrutinization of every decision is made using the match footage and 'ProZone' to measure the referee's technical performance. There is an assessment of the accuracy and consistency of decision making and his management of the game. Ok then Willo, if you are correct, has any of the results of these forensic assessments EVER been made public? Or is simply a case of telling us what we want to hear and filing the results of the assessments in the bin.. Keep it secret seems to be the answer, else it will show up the incompetence of some referees. And yes, I do remember Stuart Atwell......1 referee demoted out of hundreds of idiots..what happened to all the rest?
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| chateauferret 22 Nov 17 8.02am |
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Originally posted by the silurian
Ok then Willo, if you are correct, has any of the results of these forensic assessments EVER been made public? Or is simply a case of telling us what we want to hear and filing the results of the assessments in the bin.. Keep it secret seems to be the answer, else it will show up the incompetence of some referees. And yes, I do remember Stuart Atwell......1 referee demoted out of hundreds of idiots..what happened to all the rest? Pointless arguing. He comes out with this bollocks every time and it's just as much horse*** now as it was when they chucked him out of the BBS years and years ago.
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