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View beagle's Profile beagle Flag pom tiddly om pom pom 20 Mar 18 9.37am Send a Private Message to beagle Add beagle as a friend

Originally posted by mezzer

Artificial Intelligence will never get the better of natural stupidity.

 


When the time comes, I want die just like my Dad - at peace and asleep.
Not screaming and terrified.
Like his passengers.

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 20 Mar 18 9.51am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

This is a tragedy however we do not know the full details yet so it is possible that the woman was at fault.

Assuming that it was the Uber car that failed that should not stop the development of this technology. Driverless cars have the potential to reduce road accidents. Every year thousands of people around the world die yet know one is suggesting cars should be banned.

Every new technology brings risk hopefully from this tragedy lessons will be learned. When a drunk driver kills someone we cannot say it will never happen again as you cannot program people. In theory however they should be able to fix this particular problem so it never happens again.

 


One more point

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View Lyons550's Profile Lyons550 Flag Shirley 20 Mar 18 11.53am Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

This is actually the first death where an autonomous vehicle has been involved. In the time they've been on the roads testing they've covered millions of miles and 10,000's of thousands have died in the States alone due to human drivers during that same period.

initial indications are that the woman gave the car no chance to stop in time, whether controlled by a human or an algorithm. Pedestrians also have a part to play in road safety as well...just look at the amount of people who walk into the street looking at their phones.

Edited by Lyons550 (20 Mar 2018 11.53am)

 


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View .TUX.'s Profile .TUX. Flag 20 Mar 18 12.21pm Send a Private Message to .TUX. Add .TUX. as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

A self-driving Uber has killed a woman in Arizona.

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As is required there was a human sitting in it when it happened. So who's culpable?

According to the initial police reports, probably the victim.

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Buy Litecoin.

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe 20 Mar 18 12.38pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

It is inevitable, it's just a matter of when not if.

However, some think tanks have suggested (counter intuitively) that traffic is likely to get worse not better in the first instance. partly due to the mixture of human vs autonomous cars on the road, partly to do with other factors.

Once car ownership becomes less of a social 'requirement' and we shift towards an autonomous community model, with all cars talking to themselves and therefore optimising the entire traffic flow/movement in big cities then it might get better.

On safety and the naysayers accidents will reduce dramatically, and that is obviously a good thing, but it is surely impossible to create a system with millions of 1 ton objects moving at 30mph+ in public spaces without incidents and fatalities.

 


said the rabid giraffe whilst brandishing his throbbing member of reason, and twas ever thus.

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View stuckinbristol's Profile stuckinbristol Flag In the woodwork. 20 Mar 18 3.36pm Send a Private Message to stuckinbristol Add stuckinbristol as a friend

The queue jumpers are going to have a field day.
All they will do is fly down the inside/outside until the last minute, then pull in front of one of these driverless cars that are programmed to avoid a collision. Voila, smug BMW driver strikes again!

 


Hey, where did we go days when the rain came?

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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 20 Mar 18 3.53pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Uber cancel their testing of driverless taxis in the States, as one kills a child.

Not quite, a 49 year old.

 


Optimistic as ever

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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 20 Mar 18 3.57pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by .TUX.

According to the initial police reports, probably the victim.

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I wouldn't be so sure. Why was a self driving car going over the speed limit? Surely that should be impossible.

The car, which was traveling at 38 mph in a 35 mph zone when the accident occurred Sunday night, made no attempt to brake

and the driver has said: "His first alert to the collision was the sound of the collision."

Surely his job is to be looking out for things like this that the AI won't be looking for, isn't that the whole point of testing? To find out what intelligence it is lacking, such as potential hazards. I don't know as I'm too old, but I presume you'd have to point that out as a hazard on the theory test in the UK.

 


Optimistic as ever

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag croydon 20 Mar 18 4.04pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Uber, in bed with the cons, the blind leading the blind !

 

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View Lyons550's Profile Lyons550 Flag Shirley 20 Mar 18 4.17pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

I wouldn't be so sure. Why was a self driving car going over the speed limit? Surely that should be impossible.

The car, which was traveling at 38 mph in a 35 mph zone when the accident occurred Sunday night, made no attempt to brake

and the driver has said: "His first alert to the collision was the sound of the collision."

Surely his job is to be looking out for things like this that the AI won't be looking for, isn't that the whole point of testing? To find out what intelligence it is lacking, such as potential hazards. I don't know as I'm too old, but I presume you'd have to point that out as a hazard on the theory test in the UK.

They'll find out the reason, it's tooled up to the eyeballs with cameras and diagnostic equipment so they'll get to the bottom of it.

 


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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 20 Mar 18 4.37pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550

They'll find out the reason, it's tooled up to the eyeballs with cameras and diagnostic equipment so they'll get to the bottom of it.

They already know, probably in HD with stereo sound and slow motion.

I hope there is/was a camera monitoring the "driver" as I've got an inkling that they probably weren't paying as much attention as an actual driver would need to.

 


Optimistic as ever

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View johnno42000's Profile johnno42000 Flag 20 Mar 18 7.55pm Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

No more dogging as the cars will sense the person approaching and move away

 


'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

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