wtf? No i am not. Which fool told you that? If it is who am i thinking of maybe you didn't know that that certain poster was trolling. We do have a family business but nowt to do with property.

But having said that £40,000,000,000 would sure sort out this housing crisis. Pity.

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In which case you'd think it'd be a simple balance sheet exercise with a net figure at the end of things...the problem seems to be that no one has actually seen the 'invoice' to know what is being claimed..perhaps because there's no legal claim on getting anything from us. That would explain why they're refusing to budge and discuss trade deals until a figure has been reached.

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The problem in quantifying the UKs obligation is that part of the figure relates to agreements that were signed in 2014 and run to 2020 (which are quantifiable) and part related to the UKs portion of pension payments to EU employees.The obligations are fairly clear (and legally enforceable), so negotiations only relate to whether they may be partly waived by the EU (unlikely in my view).

Pensions are much harder to quantify, as they are open-ended payments (depending on the mortality of recipients). Also, it depends on the UKs obligations on future pensioners; i.e. will the payments relate only to those who retire before 2020 or will all current employees pensions be taken into account? And will payments be staggered over several years or not?

It's a bit of a minefield, but payments could easily reach £60 billion, perhaps more.

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Nobody respects a loser and that's us.

So stop it.

It really is that simple.

Wouldn't those have been taxes paid by her parents etc, going back to the point at which say her great great grandparents paid for the introduction of state education from their income?

People seem to get antsy when you object to paying a tax that benefits them, but are also quite quick to complain about tax spending that doesn't benefit them. (See arguments about additional taxes because people are less healthy in their lifestyle).

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But that's how the world sees us walking out on a major commitment, the Treaty of Rome, see?

Whatever is this contractual agreement anyway, it is a bribe nothing more.

To talk to somebody about maybe having trade in the future? How utterly pathetic.

They will be hoping for another 20 billions bung in a few weeks.

We should be leading Europe at this time, that is how Churchill and Heath would have seen it.

Weak weak weak weak.