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 Stirlingsays  27 Nov 17 11.38am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Well, no one's going to make it illegal but If you are a 'progressive' activist....it's something opponents are going to see as hypocritical. Obviously Labour supporters live everywhere but progressives are a minority within their voter base....even though they dominate the membership. Not sure why you require me to give a 'yes' or 'no' answer. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Nov 2017 11.43am)
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| Stirlingsays 27 Nov 17 11.43am |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
I wonder how many of those who are virulently anti-left or anti-'progressives' (whatever that means) will be principled enough to leave the country should Jezza become the next PM? They surely wouldn't stay if they expect all left-wingers to live only in Labour constituencies? That would make their assertions about others bullcrap-coated nonsense if they did. Edited by Kermit8 (27 Nov 2017 11.38am) How's that crowbar doing? You use it so often I think you blunted the end. I'm not voting for May's Tories anyway, also I'm not an activist, plus I live in an area that votes right.
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Kermit8  Hevon 27 Nov 17 11.47am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
How's that crowbar doing? You use it so often I think you blunted the end. I'm not voting for May's Tories anyway, also I'm not an activist, plus I live in an area that votes right. You wouldn't seriously stay under a socialist PM with his 'progressive' acolytes helping to run the show? Why? <-------- Texas is thataway.
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| Stirlingsays 27 Nov 17 11.57am |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
You wouldn't seriously stay under a socialist PM with his 'progressive' acolytes helping to run the show? Why? <-------- Texas is thataway. I'm an English nationalist with a small 'n'. I'm not an internationalist nor am I a republican. With exceptions I tend to criticise those who abandon the country. My fate is intertwined with my country's....which is why I'm so critical of cultural Marxism. What my children choose to do however is for them.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 27 Nov 17 12.01pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I'm an English nationalist with a small 'n'. I'm not an internationalist nor am I a republican. With exceptions I tend to criticise those who abandon the country. My fate is intertwined with my country's....which is why I'm so critical of cultural Marxism. What my children choose to do however is for them.
That's fine. Good on yer. Stay. My fate then is also intertwined with the Tory constituency I live in and Nick with his if you are going to be fair about it.
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| Stirlingsays 27 Nov 17 12.10pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
That's fine. Good on yer. Stay. My fate then is also intertwined with the Tory constituency I live in and Nick with his if you are going to be fair about it. It's not the same for the situation and reasons I gave but you guys are obviously sensitive to the 'wolfie smith' joke.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 27 Nov 17 12.20pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
I wonder how many of those who are virulently anti-left or anti-'progressives' (whatever that means) will be principled enough to leave the country should Jezza become the next PM? They surely wouldn't stay if they expect all left-wingers to live only in Labour constituencies? That would make their assertions about others bullcrap-coated nonsense if they did. Edited by Kermit8 (27 Nov 2017 11.38am) The LBC callers who threaten to leave always make me laugh, then followed by left wing or just sensible people who say let them. Then there's the landlords that claim how entrepreneurial they are. Fair play to you if you're doing well but presenters on tv and radio should really pull people up on their claims of entrepreneurialism from collecting flats to rent and maybe employing some builders for a month, many of whom would be employed by a different home owner. Some really believe the country wouldn't function without their entrepreneurial spirit as a landlord. A lot of people may as well just say they're considering taking their self interested beliefs and capital abroad rather than attempt to dress it up as anything else. Not concerned in the slightest by any individuals leaving Britain but because of the reliance on big business we shouldn't have driven ourselves into so much in the first place, I could be.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 27 Nov 17 1.08pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's not the same for the situation and reasons I gave but you guys are obviously sensitive to the 'wolfie smith' joke. Which is why I have exposed the absurdity of them. If you won't leave the country if Jezza gets in then you don't have the right to tell left-wingers they should move to a non-Tory constituency. Hypocrisy, innit.
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| Stirlingsays 27 Nov 17 1.10pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Which is why I have exposed the absurdity of them. If you won't leave the country if Jezza gets in then you don't have the right to tell left-wingers they should move to a non-Tory constituency. Hypocrisy, innit. I said 'progressive activists' not left wingers. Most people who vote Labour aren't progressives. Don't mangle my argument. Sophistry innit.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 27 Nov 17 1.18pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I said 'progressive activists' not left wingers. Most people who vote Labour aren't progressives. Don't mangle my argument. Sophistry innit. My point stands 'progressive activists' or not. Who are you to say to someone where they should or shouldn't live? Forcing an opinion that is, in the same manner of the very people you despise. And Chislehurst is not exactly Mayfair, is it? Nearly half the voters don't vote Tory there anyhow according to the 2017 GE result.
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| Stirlingsays 27 Nov 17 1.48pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
My point stands 'progressive activists' or not. Who are you to say to someone where they should or shouldn't live? Forcing an opinion that is, in the same manner of the very people you despise. And Chislehurst is not exactly Mayfair, is it? Nearly half the voters don't vote Tory there anyhow according to the 2017 GE result.
It's a criticism not an order, more crowbar mangling of the original contention. Nick was the one who wanted to expand on this question not me. You jumped into the point and are making these facile comparisons. A 'progressive activist' living in Chislehurst is a piece of amusing hypocrisy. Your 'wolfie smith' sensitivities are for you. Of course you don't like hearing it but there you go. I haven't compelled Nick to do anything and you're the one with the silly 'leave the country' stuff. As if an area of the country is the actual country itself. I just say that a person should live their principles. If you don't then people with the ability to mock, will mock. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Nov 2017 1.50pm)
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 27 Nov 17 2.42pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's a criticism not an order, more crowbar mangling of the original contention. Nick was the one who wanted to expand on this question not me. You jumped into the point and are making these facile comparisons. A 'progressive activist' living in Chislehurst is a piece of amusing hypocrisy. Your 'wolfie smith' sensitivities are for you. Of course you don't like hearing it but there you go. I haven't compelled Nick to do anything and you're the one with the silly 'leave the country' stuff. As if an area of the country is the actual country itself. I just say that a person should live their principles. If you don't then people with the ability to mock, will mock. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Nov 2017 1.50pm) Only Tories are allowed to live in nice areas? Facking hell that is ridiculous.
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