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Originally posted by Ray in Houston


You go with victim-blaming for #1 and #2?

How about this: men, don't hit anyone.

Women are more violent to men than the other way around. It's just that they can rarely hurt them without weapons.

I would say though, that any man that hits a women is a badly raised arse who seriously needs to look at himself.


Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Nov 2017 3.25pm)

 


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Originally posted by Ray in Houston


You go with victim-blaming for #1 and #2?

How about this: men, don't hit anyone.

You go on denying reality.

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Women are more violent to men than the other way around. It's just that they can rarely hurt them without weapons.

I would say though, that any man that hits a women is a badly raised arse who seriously needs to look at himself.


Care to cite a source for this? Other than your own lower intestine, of course.

Edited by Ray in Houston (28 Nov 2017 3.27pm)

 


We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You go on denying reality.


The reality being that women are asking for it? WTF?

 


We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Women are more violent to men than the other way around. It's just that they can rarely hurt them without weapons.

I would say though, that any man that hits a women is a badly raised arse who seriously needs to look at himself.


Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Nov 2017 3.25pm)

It's not really about blaming or moral outrage though is it. It is about finding practical ways to make people better people.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Nov 17 3.32pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Ray in Houston


The reality being that women are asking for it? WTF?

How you interpret what people say is not my problem, thankfully.

 

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Originally posted by Ray in Houston


Care to cite a source for this? Other than your own lower intestine, of course.

Edited by Ray in Houston (28 Nov 2017 3.27pm)

Considering that this is an area you continually waffle about I'm surprised you don't know.

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It's not really about blaming or moral outrage though is it. It is about finding practical ways to make people better people.

Perhaps, but hitting a woman still makes a bloke an arse....something they can come back from but an arse is an arse.

The males in her family should get involved at that point.

 


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Originally posted by nickgusset

Often a lifesaver for women escaping domestic violence. At the moment they can pay using housing benefit. That's about to change.

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Aside from journalistic licence, the story told here is pretty harrowing.

Apparently 2 women a day are murdered by their partner / ex partner.

Why is it always the most vulnerable that seem to be hardest hit by 'savings'?

Wow. There are 160 more women killed per year by their partner or ex-partner, than there are total murders in a year according to police!

 


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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 28 Nov 17 3.49pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Considering that this is an area you continually waffle about I'm surprised you don't know.

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A story from yesterday:

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Perhaps, but hitting a woman still makes a bloke an arse....something they can come back from but an arse is an arse.

The males in her family should get involved at that point.

Well, learned behaviour is something none of us can avoid. No one can truly escape the effects of their upbringing.
If you learned poor behaviour then you have to unlearn it and sometimes that needs help.
As tempting as it would be to go and beat up your daughter's boyfriend because he slapped her, you would in effect be rewarding one bit of violence with another. Hardly a position from which you could claim moral superiority.
I appreciate that it is easy to talk reason in hypotheticals.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 28 Nov 17 3.56pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Women are more violent to men than the other way around. It's just that they can rarely hurt them without weapons.

I would say though, that any man that hits a women is a badly raised arse who seriously needs to look at himself.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Nov 2017 3.25pm)

Research does tend to bear this out, that men are more likely to experience violence from women in a relationship, than the reverse.

However, the problem of domestic violence as a real tangible threat, and a cause of loss of life, is very much male on female violence. So whilst I do acknowledge that there is a high propensity of women on male violence, that isn't reflected in the situation where in people need access to shelters, regular visits to the ER and murder.

Which is the problem here. It kind of distracts from the significant point, that as a cause of death among young women, violence by men is a problem.

Somewhere in the region of 2 a week according to the Office of National Statistics (2016) (Current or ex-Partners being the culprit).

Questionably these aren't always classed as murders either in statistics - as the UK murder rate is generally between 500-700 a year (or the methodology of the ONS is inconsistent).

The same source cites 1.2m reported incidents in 2016


 


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