Women's refuges.
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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 29 Nov 17 5.01pm |
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Originally posted by cp forever
I have read this thread with interest as I ran projects working with women and children (and some men) who were recovering from domestic abuse. I am impressed with the poster who was able to walk away from his violent wife, sadly many women lose their lives when they try to walk away, I think the generally accepted statistic is 2 women a week lose their lives (not per day), children also lose their lives and many are permanently scarred by their experience at the hands of a violent parent. This is a worldwide issue with history in this country that is linked to women's social role and lack of status. The fact is that domestic abuse proliferates and Refuges are a vital part of the protection needed and they struggle to meet the need and I gather one of the issues now is that funding will only be locally found and as it is often very important for women and children to leave their area and not be traceable then it is a worry that the national nature of the Refuge system is thought to be under threat. The need for help for all involved in this destructive human behaviour is very important, children in particular need to be able to recover as does the non abusive parent. It is not really party political and not helpful to deny it's significance for either men or women. A lot of children are misdiagnosed with ADHD when in fact the issue is caused by early childhood trauma, such as being badly beaten or witnessing domestic violence. I've taught and tutored a lot of kids who have gone through this. Many are labelled as just troublemakers, but their needs are complex and not easily dealt with. Like all other subjects we have people dismissing issues without having a clue about them.
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 Stuk Top half 29 Nov 17 5.02pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
A lot of children are misdiagnosed with ADHD when in fact the issue is caused by early childhood trauma, such as being badly beaten or witnessing domestic violence. I've taught and tutored a lot of kids who have gone through this. Many are labelled as just troublemakers, but their needs are complex and not easily dealt with. Like all other subjects we have people dismissing issues without having a clue about them. Making a massive error in the first post doesn't help.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 29 Nov 17 5.29pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Making a massive error in the first post doesn't help. What that women's refuges are under threat because of changes to housing benefits payments linked to a news article to verify what the thread was about you mean?
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| kingdowieonthewall Sussex, ex-Cronx. 29 Nov 17 6.09pm |
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Originally posted by elgrande
I have experience of these things on two counts. A really f***ed up man ( don't think the war helped,but still no excuse). My brother was physically attacked for years by his c*** ex-wife.
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| Stirlingsays Online 29 Nov 17 7.43pm |
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Behind closed doors eh. It all goes on.....A well brought up person doesn't hit their partner.....but it's not a black and white world. I certainly never have, but my Mum was beaten up in her marriage and it was important to her that it was drilled into me not to hit women. When it comes to serious violence we know that Men are definitely the issue. That's a genetic reality over populations in every type of society. But women are violent domestically...who knows what the real balance is...it probably evens out on the small scale stuff....many males are brought up in a culture where hitting women is frowned upon in the west so you get many relationships where the bloke just takes it and doesn't give it back. They are right to not retaliate...she can't hurt you to the same extent without weapons....better to get out of it if the circle can't be squared. Violent women get called feisty and strong willed....the cultural response to them is different..a drunk woman hitting a bloke on the street is laughed at or ignored...by me also...I had feisty girlfriend in my twenties....She wasn't boring that was for certain...but you don't stay with that sort if you want to remain sane. Unstable hotheads are not good mothers for your children that's for sure. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Nov 2017 7.46pm)
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 29 Nov 17 8.07pm |
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Originally posted by cb1969
I spent a lot of time in the park Lane one in Croydon mid 70s, I assumed it was voluntary run back then. An interesting place to grow up when you’re 7 Sorry to hear this mate. I help out and remove stuff from some of these places through my business and it breaks my heart whenever I encounter any kids there.
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| Stuk Top half 29 Nov 17 8.24pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
What that women's refuges are under threat because of changes to housing benefits payments linked to a news article to verify what the thread was about you mean? You made the thread. Try reading it.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 29 Nov 17 8.49pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
You made the thread. Try reading it. Yes I was corrected later in the thread. Edited by nickgusset (29 Nov 2017 8.49pm)
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cryrst  The garden of England 29 Nov 17 9.11pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Often a lifesaver for women escaping domestic violence. At the moment they can pay using housing benefit. That's about to change. Aside from journalistic licence, the story told here is pretty harrowing. Apparently 2 women a week are murdered by their partner / ex partner. Why is it always the most vulnerable that seem to be hardest hit by 'savings'?
Edited by nickgusset (29 Nov 2017 8.47pm)
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| legaleagle 29 Nov 17 9.20pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Thing is...you never know if (if you have one) your daughter might need it down the line..or your son's (if you have one) daughter... There's a lot more domestic violence around (as this thread illustrates) than some might think... The other thing is,it could be diverted from elsewhere.Here's an example from the Daily Telegraph earlier this year...: "MPs will be given a £1,049 pay rise from April which will see their salaries rise to £76,011 while public sector workers face a continued cap". Servants of the public indeed...
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| cryrst The garden of England 29 Nov 17 9.34pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
Thing is...you never know if (if you have one) your daughter might need it down the line..or your son's (if you have one) daughter... There's a lot more domestic violence around (as this thread illustrates) than some might think... The other thing is,it could be diverted from elsewhere.Here's an example from the Daily Telegraph earlier this year...: "MPs will be given a £1,049 pay rise from April which will see their salaries rise to £76,011 while public sector workers face a continued cap". Servants of the public indeed... Glad you bought that up
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| legaleagle 29 Nov 17 10.05pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Glad you bought that up They are massively subsidised,from accommodation to travel,to back up staff, to all sorts.Their pay rises should reflect public sector averages). I've worked there;it's not known as the "best club in London" for MP's for nothing. In the old days,when I worked there,they had all night sittings,You'd get groups of them pissed out of their minds (from all parties) singing rugby songs while the staff flogged their guts out and then they'd complain if someone not an MP tried to buy a box of matches from their bar (only open to members).Since it was a royal palace,licensing hours never applied... Many of them have very little responsibility;they are "lobby fodder" and while many of them do a good job as caseworkers on behalf of constituents with problems,people doing equivalent casework frequently get paid somewhat less than £70k. Edited by legaleagle (29 Nov 2017 10.06pm)
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