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chateauferret Flag 06 Dec 17 6.52pm

Whether it's a silly rule or not it's the rulr so it shuld have been enforced. Especially given that the foul was on Wilf therefore doesn't count.

However for better or worse this offence is seldom called out by refs. See earlier remarks about their being s***.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Dec 17 6.52pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by pizzapat

if the official at the hawthrons on saturday couldnt tell it was a back pass that led to the penalty appeal surely he shouldnt be officiating;you didnt need slowmo replays for that the fact it was a back pass was also why foster tried to dribble around wilf[ he knew he couldnt pick up the ball?

I never speculated that the referee never saw it as a back pass.
It wasn't a straight case of ball passed back and the keeper picking up the ball - this would have been clear to see.
Zaha got involved the two players came close together, perhaps Oliver never had the best view from his angle etc etc.So there were moments in the game after the ball left the foot of the WBA player.
This incident would have been discussed as part of the post-match evaluation and we can only speculate about the input of the referee.

Edited by Willo (06 Dec 2017 6.55pm)

 

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jeeagles Flag 06 Dec 17 6.54pm

Originally posted by Willo


In actual fact it is your good self who has gross inaccuracies in your assertion that I believe referees are always right.I have repeatedly stated that referees DO err from time to time and it would be ridiculous to say otherwise.

Finally, I don't rely on Wiki/Google for player information as a matter of course.Somehow I manage to retain a knowledge of players and as one chap said to me a while ago in front of my wife "You are a walking encyclopedia on football" after I engaged in conversation with him in a bar, well away from any PC.Now that I am 65, whether I retain the knowledge is a matter for conjecture.

Edited by Willo (06 Dec 2017 6.26pm)

The intention of my post was to try and get others to avoid engaging you in conversation about referees. But as ever you predictably reply to everything.

In two post you have stated referees are right 98% or the time to saying the err from time to time. My interpretation is that these two statements are completely contraditory.

I'm glad your views on football have a been accredited by a random guy at a bar with your wife bearing witness. That must have been a nice moment for you.

Since my post I've noticed that this discussion has gone back to being about you. I may have made a mistake by calling you out there. With that in mind, please try and refrain from responding to every single post in exactly the same way so everyone else can get back to talking about football.

 

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chateauferret Flag 06 Dec 17 6.59pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

Willo makes up 42% of facts, but ardently believes that referees are always right, believes a conversion involves repeating the same view over and over again, and looks up 0% of his player knowledge on google/wiki.

In his defence, I am happy to accept this as an honest mistake. From the few indirect free kicks I've seen from back passes I can't remember any going in. It's not really in the spirit of the rule either. We didn't do enough to win last Saturday.

He didn't make that fact up. PGMOL did. However, it proves nothing, even if it's true. 2% wrong is still 25% of matches ruined by poor decisions. I proved this on another thread.

Argumentum ad ignorantium.

Edited by chateauferret (06 Dec 2017 7.17pm)

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Dec 17 7.03pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

The intention of my post was to try and get others to avoid engaging you in conversation about referees. But as ever you predictably reply to everything.

In two post you have stated referees are right 98% or the time to saying the err from time to time. My interpretation is that these two statements are completely contraditory.

I'm glad your views on football have a been accredited by a random guy at a bar with your wife bearing witness. That must have been a nice moment for you.

Since my post I've noticed that this discussion has gone back to being about you. I may have made a mistake by calling you out there. With that in mind, please try and refrain from responding to every single post in exactly the same way so everyone else can get back to talking about football.

I'm glad to discredit your post.

My statistic of 98% is wholly consistent with my assertion that referees DO err from time to time. I find it befuddling why you have asserted otherwise but this is a matter for yourself.

As for the "Random guy at bar", I refrained from saying who he was for reasons I shall keep to myself.I only used it as an example to indicate that I don't wholly rely on Wiki/Google when I discuss detailed matters about players and the like.This does of course not make me a panjandrum or elevate me to a position of levity but I am just stating the facts.

As for being about me, I specifically stated that I would refrain from commenting on certain matters as I did NOT wish it to turn into a WILLO thread.

Regards my response to posts,all I have done is to pass on my views about various comments, which others of course do on here.


Edited by Willo (06 Dec 2017 7.06pm)

 

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jeeagles Flag 06 Dec 17 7.19pm

Originally posted by Willo

I'm glad to discredit your post.

My statistic of 98% is wholly consistent with my assertion that referees DO err from time to time. I find it befuddling why you have asserted otherwise but this is a matter for yourself.

As for the "Random guy at bar", I refrained from saying who he was for reasons I shall keep to myself.I only used it as an example to indicate that I don't wholly rely on Wiki/Google when I discuss detailed matters about players and the like.This does of course not make me a panjandrum or elevate me to a position of levity but I am just stating the facts.

As for being about me, I specifically stated that I would refrain from commenting on certain matters as I did NOT wish it to turn into a WILLO thread.

Regards my response to posts,all I have done is to pass on my views about various comments, which others of course do on here.


Edited by Willo (06 Dec 2017 7.06pm)

Are you just stating facts or are you making them up 98% of the time? Can you sort your nonsense? The stark contradiction and unwillingness to accept anyone else's point of view simply indicates to me that you are one of those dangerously thick people who thinks he's intelligent based on the fact you opt to use a slightly different vocabulary to everyone else.

Who knows, all I know is you respond to everything they say you don't want to turn this into a willow thread. There's a simple solution to that. Please stop trolling these boards.

 

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chateauferret Flag 06 Dec 17 7.22pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

Are you just stating facts or are you making them up 98% of the time? Can you sort your nonsense? The stark contradiction and unwillingness to accept anyone else's point of view simply indicates to me that you are one of those dangerously thick people who thinks he's intelligent based on the fact you opt to use a slightly different vocabulary to everyone else.

Who knows, all I know is you respond to everything they say you don't want to turn this into a willow thread. There's a simple solution to that. Please stop trolling these boards.

May your pericombobulations not occasion any contrafibularities, Sir.

 


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jeeagles Flag 06 Dec 17 7.24pm

Originally posted by chateauferret

May your pericombobulations not occasion any contrafibularities, Sir.

A perfect response. Made me laugh.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 06 Dec 17 7.41pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

Are you just stating facts or are you making them up 98% of the time? Can you sort your nonsense? The stark contradiction and unwillingness to accept anyone else's point of view simply indicates to me that you are one of those dangerously thick people who thinks he's intelligent based on the fact you opt to use a slightly different vocabulary to everyone else.

Who knows, all I know is you respond to everything they say you don't want to turn this into a willow thread. There's a simple solution to that. Please stop trolling these boards.

If you don't like Willos' posts then just ignore them and if you think that he's trolling then click the alert moderator icon.

Can we have no more "Willo" posts please and just concentrate on the subject matter

Edited by Midlands Eagle (06 Dec 2017 7.42pm)

 

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View glazedallover's Profile glazedallover Flag Allier 06 Dec 17 7.59pm Send a Private Message to glazedallover Add glazedallover as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

If you don't like Willos' posts then just ignore them and if you think that he's trolling then click the alert moderator icon.

Can we have no more "Willo" posts please and just concentrate on the subject matter

Edited by Midlands Eagle (06 Dec 2017 7.42pm)

You mean just like you used to?

 

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chateauferret Flag 06 Dec 17 8.18pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

If you don't like Willos' posts then just ignore them and if you think that he's trolling then click the alert moderator icon.

Can we have no more "Willo" posts please and just concentrate on the subject matter

Edited by Midlands Eagle (06 Dec 2017 7.42pm)

Just looked at the forum rules and they make no mention of either trolling or troll-hunting. Are they to be amended?

 


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jeeagles Flag 06 Dec 17 8.32pm

Originally posted by glazedallover

You mean just like you used to?

I generally try to, but on this occasion got frustrated that every single thread about officiating seems to be overtaken by him.

Anyway, I'll drop the subject. Sorry everyone.

Edited by jeeagles (06 Dec 2017 8.32pm)

 

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