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View Northbrook's Profile Northbrook Flag West Sussex 10 Dec 17 5.00pm Send a Private Message to Northbrook Add Northbrook as a friend

I Did suggest this in the Fosu-Mensah thread. In a World Cup year where he’s barely getting a look in... you never know. If Utd recall Fosu-Mensah we could do a hell of a lot worse than having Giroud on loan till the end of the season

 


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chateauferret Flag 10 Dec 17 6.41pm

Originally posted by mattteo

So, list of possible Bentekre replacements, according to price:

Good survey that. You'd better give Mr Freedman his filofax back now

Interesting the idea of bringing players back from China. I always assumed that these were players who wanted to put their feet up and get paid megabucks for doing SFA.

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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 10 Dec 17 6.51pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

As I mentioned on another thread no chance of prising him away from the Arse. Again showed what he can do from the bench. Couldn't get Bendtner on loan from them in the past. We need to target reasonable targets in Jan than jump for the rainbow. Cannot afford to be wasting time at the death on long shots. If we do then clearly we haven't learned anything in our transfer dealings. Agree though that if Fosu Mensah isn't in the plans at all, although a gap will occur which would be a gamble then free up a loan deal.

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 10 Dec 17 9.22pm Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

We need a goal poacher, someone who just feeds on scraps in the box but scores more often than not.

The amount of great chances we have missed this season is unbelievable

id like to see Leigh Griffiths from Celtic at Palace, he would have a hat full of goals for us this season.

 

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chateauferret Flag 11 Dec 17 7.51am

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 11 Dec 17 3.41pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret

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Going nowhere.

I agree its unlikely given that interview, but does Wenger care so little for his players that he would rather keep them as bench men than allow them to perhaps follow their last chance of a world cup place. It's not like Wenger is short of options. He may not be unsympathetic to a move, as indeed when questioned about Wilshere he said he would need to discuss his future with him which in my mind means he is open to discussion about his players futures.

Who knows what January will throw up but as you say, this one is probably unlikely.

 

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View Petereagle's Profile Petereagle Flag Brockley 12 Dec 17 6.02am Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by Northbrook

I Did suggest this in the Fosu-Mensah thread. In a World Cup year where he’s barely getting a look in... you never know. If Utd recall Fosu-Mensah we could do a hell of a lot worse than having Giroud on loan till the end of the season

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Hopkins would like this loan too. Personally I don’t agree with it. Fosu Mensah is a talented defender and with Sakho out injured for quite a few matches, we need cover

 

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View n wales eagles's Profile n wales eagles Flag llandudno 12 Dec 17 7.44am Send a Private Message to n wales eagles Add n wales eagles as a friend

Thanks matteo will download to tablet and read over Christmas as off for a few days.Have you been nominated for a Booker prize ?

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 12 Dec 17 8.21am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

matteo - I'm genuinely curious, are these long-winded posts born out of a background of scouting, or are you, like the rest of us, making guesses based on the football you watch?

Many of the players you mentioned I have little knowledge of, while others I would be very surprised to see either a) come to the club, or b) be anymore successful than Adebayor or Ameobi. Having said that, nothing ever surprises me with Palace these days.

Dougie will have to show his worth this window and we'll also see if any of Roy's old contacts help us to unearth someone in a similar way that we dug up Luka. As to Giroud I agree that I don't think he would be suited to a relegation scrap and I also seriously doubt he would swap a top 6 club and European football for what we have to offer.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 12 Dec 17 9.55am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

matteo - I'm genuinely curious, are these long-winded posts born out of a background of scouting, or are you, like the rest of us, making guesses based on the football you watch?

Many of the players you mentioned I have little knowledge of, while others I would be very surprised to see either a) come to the club, or b) be anymore successful than Adebayor or Ameobi. Having said that, nothing ever surprises me with Palace these days.

Dougie will have to show his worth this window and we'll also see if any of Roy's old contacts help us to unearth someone in a similar way that we dug up Luka. As to Giroud I agree that I don't think he would be suited to a relegation scrap and I also seriously doubt he would swap a top 6 club and European football for what we have to offer.

I agree with you in part, but a couple of points, firstly Giroud. There is only one reason he would want to come to Palace and that is to have game time and score goals to convince the powers that be that he should play in the world cup. So I think being in a relegation battle is irrelevent to his decision. He is a quality striker and would no doubt love to play around Wilf, Andros and RLC and I am sure that given the half chances Benteke has been presented with this season he would have buried a fair percentage of them.

Secondly Matteo's list is good but not exhaustive and surely, the secret to signing good players at reasonable money is having an eye for those who will fit into our system of play regardless of who they play for and how they are currently playing. Just because a player is playing poorly for one team doesn't mean he won't fit into another and of course vice versa. We agree that pound for pound Milivojevic has been our best signing by a mile and there is no reason why a decent scout cannot find more of these gems playing around the euro leagues. Dougie has hopefully been employed because he has a decent eye in this area. I would hope so anyway because otherwise his appointment appears unnecessary.

There have been grumbles on this forum as to why we have struggled to put together a squad rather than just a first 11. In my opinion it is because our scouting network is so poor we have been unable to unearth the Lukas of this world and have had to go for marquee signings which initially looks great on paper but means you are paying top dollar. Zaha, Cabaye, Benteke, Sakho, Townsend, PVA, Schlupp are all good players, but the seecret to building a squad is in finding players of their ability at half the price. We are simply not rich enough to buy our way into the top half of the league so need to buy clever. Our scouting network and our negotiators are the most important part of the club in the absence of an Oligarch. If we manage to unearth the next Vardy or Kane or pick up players like Richarlison who is clearly playing way above his initial valuation then we can be successful without having to buy more Bentekes and Sakhos at £30m a pop.

 

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It's difficult, as the Watford approach can go very wrong. They've signed 20 players in the last two seasons (which includes three loans) and sold 21 (not including loans). The sales of Vydra and in particular Ighalo (whose sale accounted for nearly half of all transfer income over the last two seasons) helped them balance the books, but with agents fees, signing-on fees and wages I imagine when you look beyond the transfer fees they've spent a hell of a lot. I hope we do unearth someone from somewhere rather than paying over the odds for a name, but the reality is we just need to sign someone who is ready to compete with Bentenke, who ever that may be.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 12 Dec 17 10.24am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

It's difficult, as the Watford approach can go very wrong. They've signed 20 players in the last two seasons (which includes three loans) and sold 21 (not including loans). The sales of Vydra and in particular Ighalo (whose sale accounted for nearly half of all transfer income over the last two seasons) helped them balance the books, but with agents fees, signing-on fees and wages I imagine when you look beyond the transfer fees they've spent a hell of a lot. I hope we do unearth someone from somewhere rather than paying over the odds for a name, but the reality is we just need to sign someone who is ready to compete with Bentenke, who ever that may be.

Agreed, it is difficult, but by no means impossible.

 

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