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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 11 Dec 17 4.19pm

Originally posted by steph_eagle

Maybe there's a reason some children don't like using the toilets during breaks. I never used the toilets in breaks at school as was a quiet girl and there were always older girls in there which scared me. Obviously that isn't the case in all situations but that's why I can't see problems with it. Even now I hate using toilets when others are in there.

If teachers are made aware of any issues, they're pretty good at using common sense.

I've had kids they needed to go a lot, I had a note from the parents, no problem whatsoever. Funny thing was, the kid hated leaving the lesson.

All about communication.

 

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View Misseagle's Profile Misseagle Flag London 11 Dec 17 4.24pm Send a Private Message to Misseagle Add Misseagle as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

If teachers are made aware of any issues, they're pretty good at using common sense.

I've had kids they needed to go a lot, I had a note from the parents, no problem whatsoever. Funny thing was, the kid hated leaving the lesson.

All about communication.

Kids should go at break or cross their legs, lessons are not ever ending.

After all us teachers have to go at break.

Edited by Misseagle (11 Dec 2017 4.25pm)

 

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View steph_eagle's Profile steph_eagle Flag Thornton Heath 11 Dec 17 4.29pm Send a Private Message to steph_eagle Add steph_eagle as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

If teachers are made aware of any issues, they're pretty good at using common sense.

I've had kids they needed to go a lot, I had a note from the parents, no problem whatsoever. Funny thing was, the kid hated leaving the lesson.

All about communication.

Seems there is a big difference between your thinking and the OPs which is why I responded the way I did the first time. As you can see by the response to your post, I stand by my first comment.

 

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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 11 Dec 17 4.44pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Misseagle

Kids should go at break or cross their legs, lessons are not ever ending.

After all us teachers have to go at break.

Edited by Misseagle (11 Dec 2017 4.25pm)

It's not like you'd ask the kids for permission to go, if you needed to.

You'd say I've just got to get something/check something or speak to Mr or Miss x.

At primary school you are hardly likely to miss out, on anything critical to your future life, in a few minutes.

But then I advocate parents being able to take their kids on holiday during term, just to give you some perspective.

 


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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 11 Dec 17 4.57pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

It's not like you'd ask the kids for permission to go, if you needed to.

You'd say I've just got to get something/check something or speak to Mr or Miss x.

At primary school you are hardly likely to miss out, on anything critical to your future life, in a few minutes.

But then I advocate parents being able to take their kids on holiday during term, just to give you some perspective.

From a different perspective - I don’t advocate term-time holidays, and at heart I’m a ‘disciplinarian’ - however, in this example I’m horrified that a ‘no toilet breaks’ rule is even contemplated. Sorry, but it sounds like something out of a darker age.

 


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View Misseagle's Profile Misseagle Flag London 11 Dec 17 4.58pm Send a Private Message to Misseagle Add Misseagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

It's not like you'd ask the kids for permission to go, if you needed to.

You'd say I've just got to get something/check something or speak to Mr or Miss x.

At primary school you are hardly likely to miss out, on anything critical to your future life, in a few minutes.

But then I advocate parents being able to take their kids on holiday during term, just to give you some perspective.

I've gone during teaching time once in 2 years. Usually I hold it as there is no one to cover.

The toilets are just outside my class, so the kids can go as soon as break arrives, if they don't take that chance because they are too busy playing, tough luck.

 

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View Misseagle's Profile Misseagle Flag London 11 Dec 17 4.59pm Send a Private Message to Misseagle Add Misseagle as a friend

Originally posted by YT

From a different perspective - I don’t advocate term-time holidays, and at heart I’m a ‘disciplinarian’ - however, in this example I’m horrified that a ‘no toilet breaks’ rule is even contemplated. Sorry, but it sounds like something out of a darker age.

Why are you so horrified?

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 11 Dec 17 5.12pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Misseagle

Why are you so horrified?

Well for starters it suggests to me that there’s absolutely no trust between teacher and pupil. My daughters often need the loo at short notice (for ‘ladies’ problems’ if you want me to spell it out by way of a euphemism!) and the thought that a teacher would deny them access to such a basic requirement is horrifying and slightly sickening.

 


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Originally posted by Willo

In my day, if one wanted to urinate you raised 1 finger, for a bowel movement one raised 2 fingers.

Not heard of that method before; I just hope you washed your hands thoroughly afterwards.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 11 Dec 17 6.29pm

Originally posted by YT

Well for starters it suggests to me that there’s absolutely no trust between teacher and pupil. My daughters often need the loo at short notice (for ‘ladies’ problems’ if you want me to spell it out by way of a euphemism!) and the thought that a teacher would deny them access to such a basic requirement is horrifying and slightly sickening.

There's a distinction in the teachers mind between genuine need or a chance for tomfoolery. 99% of the time, kids want to mess about outside the classroom.

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

There's a distinction in the teachers mind between genuine need or a chance for tomfoolery. 99% of the time, kids want to mess about outside the classroom.

So how does the teacher distinguish between genuine need and tomfoolery? If you start with the mindset '99% of the time' are you ever going to believe anyone?

 

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View Apollofuzz's Profile Apollofuzz Flag On the edge of reason 11 Dec 17 9.05pm Send a Private Message to Apollofuzz Add Apollofuzz as a friend

Originally posted by Misseagle

Ooh cruel.

She asked 5 minutes after lunch. There is no excuse for that, 10 and 11 year old's should know to use the toilet at break and lunch.

Maybe she has an issue with other children being in there, maybe she is being bullied and scared to go when certain other kids are around. Maybe she had lunch club and didn't have time. Maybe she was trying it on. Not always a straight forward answer

 


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