Indeed they are. As are genuine asylum seekers and economic migrants

Your moral outrage might be better understood if you had read this post and complained nearly a month ago, when it was written (and dealt with), rather than being stirred up by a third party on another thread.

No further discussion will be entered into on the boards.

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

When the government constantly goes against the actual will of the people - with every poll showing that people are against immigration - what do people expect? Genuine anger is bound to happen eventually. Frankly, Europe, in particular Britain, has proven to be remarkably restrained. There will inevitably be a flashpoint, however, particularly when the economy is not doing well. People will view immigrants as competition for limited resources.
I really want to know why people welcome illegal immigrants? They want to exacerbate the housing and health crisis perhaps? Or maybe there's not enough diversity? I fail to see any sense in the current situation. If it doesn't stop, there will emerge a genuine far right popular party in England - on this single issue. The 'man in the street' is sick of being ignored and their patience has a limit.

Red and Blue Army!

I suspect most minority groups are anti more immigration, particularly illegal immigration, as they will likely believe new arrivals may be in competition with them for jobs and services.

Red and Blue Army!

The only one single advantage of diversity is a genetic one, and only when controlled.
It is well known that so called hybrid vigour helps avoid stagnation and in breeding in an isolated population that can eventually lead to too many congenital diseases. That isn't really going to be much of a plus since most minorities marry their own kind and mostly live in big cities.

There is no real social or financial advantage to diversity and a huge list of disadvantages.

I don't care what the Lefties say about conspiracy theories. We are effectively being replaced, and while that is happening, we have to put up with Albanian drug gangs, Caribbean stab culture, endless whining about racism, merit being replaced by quota system and endless disproportionate media representations of minorities.

Oh yeah, and grime.

Outside of the aforementioned in-breeding scenario that certainly occurs in some areas of this country, diversity and immigration is inevitable if the future trend is towards a globalised world with a mix of maturing and growing economies. Which despite bumps in the road has been the general direction of travel for quite some time now, thanks to the accessibility of technology and travel. Can't see that changing... every country wants growth and lots of it, despite the odd bout of sabre rattling here and there.

Therefore diversity becomes necessary (and beneficial) when you have a minority population large enough to affect you economically. Businesses need to appeal to a growing section of the economy in terms of getting a slice of their disposable income and attracting talent. That's just one reasoning. There are loads more...

As for how far you go with pandering to it – eg. positive discrimination etc. is a fair debate. But that's more about how far than whether it's necessary. It becomes necessary when the minority population becomes economically valuable.

Even immigration shy countries like Japan are starting to realise that if they want to sustain their economies at the level they've got used to they are going to have to start opening up their borders.

Unless the direction of travel changes it's an inevitability that countries will begin to 'blend' even more... and nationality will evolve with it. Bothers some, doesn't bother me particularly. Do what you need to do to prosper.

Maybe we could try and pivot to more of a closed shop model, but that might result in significant wage hikes and prices following suit. Significant long term inflation, like what is happening now but for decades. Which would probably leave most of you homeless and unable to afford a pint of milk.

Also on the 'replacement' point – isn't this a bit hyperbolic? In a globalised society all races will spread out and mix, that's just a reality until such time as where we decide that it's not the most economically prosperous route. However the point made above about minorities marrying within their groups is a good one – this doesn't just apply to 'them', it applies to 'us' too. So I don't think 'our' genes are in any real danger long term.

Besides, so what, really. Identity, nationalism and culture has always evolved and it's down to a lot more than just genetics. If you're a fan of attempting to maintain a pure genetic line that's up to you, but personally I'm not going to be segregating my children and deciding they can only marry 10th generation white English people to 'preserve our genetics'. How far back do you go? Where do you even start with that. It's nonsensical, and detrimental in an increasingly globalised world.

Edited by SW19 CPFC (10 Mar 2023 5.59pm)

Edited by SW19 CPFC (10 Mar 2023 6.00pm)

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