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  Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 16 Jan 20 1.24pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Do you now concede the point that this situation was officially allowed to continue for reasons other than an elaborate sting operation? The video in question has nothing whatsoever to do with the subject which I won't be commenting on unless and until the predictable hate fest subsides and an objective analytical debate is possible. When I first saw the report a few days ago I expected this to burst into life again and could have written many of the comments myself, they are so familiar.
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Teddy Eagle  16 Jan 20 1.32pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The video in question has nothing whatsoever to do with the subject which I won't be commenting on unless and until the predictable hate fest subsides and an objective analytical debate is possible. When I first saw the report a few days ago I expected this to burst into life again and could have written many of the comments myself, they are so familiar. So that’s a no then.
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| W12 16 Jan 20 1.50pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It's amazing that some describe as "excellent" a myopic, biased, inaccurate and quite frankly disgraceful video. Propaganda of this type isn't even excellent propaganda. How on earth do people expect to have a serious conversation about these matters when this kind of thing is put out there to wind people up? What do they hope to achieve excepting creating division, unhappiness and distress. "myopic, biased, inaccurate and quite frankly disgraceful" How would you back up that claim based on anything other than some leftist propaganda. Are you going to send us a hope not hate video? i.e. what empirical facts do you have? "creating division, unhappiness and distress" How would you describe the unhappiness and distress caused by the systematic rape of our children by large groups of non-indigenous men? This included being branded with hot irons, an amateur abortion, constant death threats torture, murder and forced drug/alcohol addiction. Many of these children were pimped to hundreds of men whilst being kept in the most squalid conditions. Also, the fact that these girls were not listened to and treated like prostitutes. Parents who tried to get involved were also demonized, threatened, arrested and told to go away. Can you even imagine their distress? Maybe division is exactly what we need.
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| Stirlingsays 16 Jan 20 4.10pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
On LBC Lefty O'Brian was pointing out that the majority of child abusers in the country were white which is correct. What he failed to point out was that these were predominately family abusers so he's not comparing like for like. Of course it's no comfort to the victim but there is a big difference between organised abuse by gangs and individual abuse by a family member. Most of us can see the difference between a person who is stabbed by their partner and a person who is the victim of a gang stabbing. It is almost impossible for the authorities to identify an individual abuser until they are notified. The point about these gangs is that it wasn't an isolated incident and they knew about it and did nothing. As fr the charge of racism I remember when PIE was exposed and that was an organised gang of white man well the media went to town on them and quite rightly. People need to be held accountable for their inactivity and that means criminal prosecutions or dismissal for gross misconduct and take away their gold plated taxpayers pension. It's hardly surprising that within a country which is still.....currently 75-80 percent white the number of child abusers would numerically be majority white. What the relevant statistic is the percentage of abuse within each community. The fact that our institutions have been afraid to robustly tackle the abuse is completely and utterly the fault of social liberals who have screamed 'racism' for any criticism or action taken against their 'protected group'. Look at how the Labour party treated Sarah Champion when she tried to speak common sense. Even from within their own party it's heresy to actually lift the lid and peek...The Labour party are more Islamophillic than they are antisemitic. It was always going to happen. It's displaced empathy over common sense...That's how they insisted the public service institutions respond...and it's still deeply ingrained.....With these services it's all about arse covering, appeasement and avoiding complaints from 'protected' communities rather than actually protecting the vulnerable. The level of abuse from select communities isn't only confined to these grooming gangs who target the vulnerable girls that the white community have abandoned......No, familiy abuse also occurs behind their own doors. But the social liberals and their 'protection' have abandoned these girls and boys as well....Also many of them ignore and even verbally attack the vulnerable within that community like atheists, apostates or gays. All this than that rather be called a racist......These people disgust me. They think they are good people but in reality they are complicit.....They have responsibility for the culture but any number of excuses....Their leaders are responsible for the, 'go along to get along' institutions but they are responsible for the cheer leading. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jan 2020 4.26pm)
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| Stirlingsays 16 Jan 20 4.41pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
In terms of their 'rubbish families', then yes, I do think parents have to be held to account. From my understanding many of these girls were allowed to exist in a world without much parental censure. Even the ones in care would have come from dysfunctional backgrounds although they should really have been the most protected of all children but that is a different argument altogether. Sorry for focusing upon this particular paragraph but I feel that it's the salient point. Islamic communities come from poor countries, which have far less opportunities and access to services yet they don't have anything like the same level of abandoned children (not to say that a percent aren't being abused behind doors). This isn't a support of their level of social conservatism, which is obviously based upon religion, but it does hold a light up to the differences. White girls get abandoned and disowned. Whereas the girls from this community are far more protected from outside abuse. That's me attacking the white community for the level of social liberalism. Liberalism, like socialism should exist as a pressure group within a wider socially conservative cultural construct. When social liberalism rules the culture, as it has for decades now.....this is just one of the consequences - that the underclass get an even worse deal than before....because no one from the white egalitarian class sees them as their 'community'. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jan 2020 4.45pm)
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| Stirlingsays 16 Jan 20 4.49pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Do you now concede the point that this situation was officially allowed to continue for reasons other than an elaborate sting operation? Indeed, he's on record on the site for defending the Police's actions in keeping this quiet.....amongst other institution defending statements on this issue....Essentially, because he wasn't there, he feels he can't comment. Even though it doesn't cause him much issue with anything else. He even stated he'd heard about something about this 20 years ago. He has zero credibility on this issue and is part of the ideological problem. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jan 2020 4.51pm)
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cryrst  The garden of England 16 Jan 20 5.37pm |
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Parents and foster parents contacted the police etc.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Jan 20 5.41pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
So that’s a no then. It's a no to commenting on anything other than the video for the reasons I stated very clearly.
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| Teddy Eagle 16 Jan 20 6.04pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It's a no to commenting on anything other than the video for the reasons I stated very clearly. And by extension on the original point. Or is it that hard to admit being wrong about something?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Jan 20 6.13pm |
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Originally posted by W12
"myopic, biased, inaccurate and quite frankly disgraceful" How would you back up that claim based on anything other than some leftist propaganda. Are you going to send us a hope not hate video? i.e. what empirical facts do you have? "creating division, unhappiness and distress" How would you describe the unhappiness and distress caused by the systematic rape of our children by large groups of non-indigenous men? This included being branded with hot irons, an amateur abortion, constant death threats torture, murder and forced drug/alcohol addiction. Many of these children were pimped to hundreds of men whilst being kept in the most squalid conditions. Also, the fact that these girls were not listened to and treated like prostitutes. Parents who tried to get involved were also demonized, threatened, arrested and told to go away. Can you even imagine their distress? Maybe division is exactly what we need. To repeat. The referenced video had nothing at all to do with the subject of the thread. When it's central premise (that there are open borders) is a lie, everything that follows is too. It was by an American about the alleged situation in the USA which adds to it's irrelevance. I am not getting involved in another pointless debate about "grooming gangs" and how we either have, or should, handle them. My views are constantly misrepresented here and are once again in another response from the usual suspect, despite me posting comprehensive and very clear clarifications several times. It seems some people are more interested in posting character assassinations than engaging in any kind of objective, balanced and respectful conversation about a serious subject.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Jan 20 6.17pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
And by extension on the original point. Or is it that hard to admit being wrong about something? You can try to extend anything you want. I am not. My answer relates solely to the video. My views on the subject haven't changed and won't be expanded on again as they are constantly misrepresented. If and when that ceases I might.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 16 Jan 20 6.28pm |
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The grooming gang scandal is THE reason Labour got their ass kicked in their old industrial heartland. plus Corbyn having all the charisma and cuddly demeanour of a spider crab.
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