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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 29 Mar 21 10.33pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Whist you keep posting stuff people literally don't say. That's called libel.

Forgot that you didn’t understand what libel was.

So you agree with the caller then? David Lammy isn’t English?

Edited by DanH (29 Mar 2021 10.33pm)

 

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Originally posted by DanH

He was born in Tottenham. He’s English.

So if I was born in Nairobe, I'd be African?

Not sure that would wash with Africans.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 29 Mar 21 10.38pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Wonder what it is about Diane Abbott and David Lammy that attract particular ridicule. There are politicians across the board that have said some seriously stupid stuff - our PM has said a lot more stupid b*llocks than both put together - yet it’s these two that seem to get brought up again and again.

Can’t quite put my finger on it.

They do have great comedy value. Boris isn't bad either. Could be a half decent modern Python. Perhaps Corbyn could be a Terry Gilliam like figure? I guess Abbott in drag for all the females, Boris some kind of Cleese? Lammy could be the new Chapman - he'd certainly be Brian.
Lammy would be good in that being the poorest sketch. Can't remember what it's called. 'Lived in a shoebox' etc.

 


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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 29 Mar 21 10.45pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So if I was born in Nairobe, I'd be African?

Not sure that would wash with Africans.

If you were born there and grew up there and educated there until you graduated from university then of course you would be.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 29 Mar 21 10.56pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

If you were born there and grew up there and educated there until you graduated from university then of course you would be.

And if he was born in Japan or China? Yes of course Dan. Everyone everywhere would say he’s Japanese or Chinese.

If he was born in Nigeria he’d by Nigerian? I knew a white man from an English family who grew up in Nigeria and went to an English school and had an English accent. Nobody anywhere said he was Nigerian or should be. Not he, not anyone. He could do the Nigerian accent if he wanted to perfectly though.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 29 Mar 21 11.04pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

I’m sure they do laugh at the Harvard educated, qualified barrister, the massive idiot.

They certainly do if they watch his appearance on Celebrity Mastermind.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 29 Mar 21 11.24pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

They certainly do if they watch his appearance on Celebrity Mastermind.

I guarantee he’ll do either strictly or ‘I’m a celebrity get me out of here’, or both.

 


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View Wilesy01's Profile Wilesy01 Flag Bristol 29 Mar 21 11.29pm Send a Private Message to Wilesy01 Add Wilesy01 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So if I was born in Nairobe, I'd be African?

Not sure that would wash with Africans.

It's not the same though, is it? Lammy was born and raised in England and now is an MP.

He is as English as any one of us, and retains his Carribbean identity through his parents. The woman on the LBC call seemed to put forward the idea only those with strict Anglo Saxon ancestry qualify as English, something which very few of us could prove. I certainly couldn't.

And as for the "polluting" comments how disgraceful. Seems to have gone completely unnoticed by many on here.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 30 Mar 21 12.39am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

This is about identities.

There is a genetic identity and there is a cultural identity....there is also what a passport says.

Lammy is not English genetically and it doesn't matter how he feels about it. The English are actually a recognised ethnic group and membership of it is genetically set. As I write this I don't seriously believe that Lammy considers himself English in this regard.

If Lammy considers himself culturally English that's for him. I've met fine people who consider themselves culturally English and depending upon how sincere it is people will take how they find.

For example, many people think that Freddie Mercury was English or British when he wasn't, but culturally he was and it was genuine so people accepted him.

However, personally I think Lammy is being disingenuous because I think what he really wants to do here is attack notions of indigenous English rights using old deconstruction arguments.

The indigenous English/British/Irish have both a historical and ancestral claim to their lands, just as indigenous peoples' have claims on their homelands all over the world.

My view of Lammy is that he's black British because he was born here. I know that lawmakers want to pretend that birthplace and ethnicity are intrinsically linked but in my view that's a fantasy.

The point has been made many times but instances of birth in foreign lands is very weak as a claim that most believe....for example, David Gower, Cliff Richards and even Rudyard Kipling were born in India....only the deluded thinks this makes them Indian.

There is no hard and fast rule but personally I think you have to be at least 50 genetically European before you can start claiming a European heritage as your identity. I recognise that if someone is mixed then they have that self identity to decide. However, the reality of Lammy is that if he has any European genes at all it's obviously nowhere near half.

However, if someone wants to consider themselves English and they are genuine it isn't a big deal...Hell, if someone considers themselves a fruit bowl, I have no issues about that as long as I don't have to be involved in the delusion.

Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Mar 2021 12.59am)

 


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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 30 Mar 21 5.30am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Forgot that you didn’t understand what libel was.

So you agree with the caller then? David Lammy isn’t English?

Edited by DanH (29 Mar 2021 10.33pm)

ETHNIC MINORITY.

a group within a community which has different national or cultural traditions from the main population.

He is English by virtue of being born here but that wasn't her point.
She is 100% English, no eyes or support for any other country , no duel culture,
He classed him self as afro Caribbean English
Was she afro Caribbean English? no just pure English.

Edited by dannyboy1978 (30 Mar 2021 6.33am)

 

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Originally posted by DanH

If you were born there and grew up there and educated there until you graduated from university then of course you would be.

So what we have is the difference between the technical and what people actually think.

David Lammy, as a politician, will use any identity that suits his agenda, but many people will never see him as English. A British citizen maybe, but nothing more. You have to have many generations behind you to get that accolade in many people's eyes. People like you can bang on about this stuff till you turn blue, but it makes no difference.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Mar 21 10.55am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So what we have is the difference between the technical and what people actually think.

David Lammy, as a politician, will use any identity that suits his agenda, but many people will never see him as English. A British citizen maybe, but nothing more. You have to have many generations behind you to get that accolade in many people's eyes. People like you can bang on about this stuff till you turn blue, but it makes no difference.

I count him as English, I presume he knows where his bread's buttered. He's always baiting everyone with his bull statements. He's basically a kind of Piers Morgan for the woke. I wouldn't rise to it, it's all a bit silly.

 


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