Grooming Gangs + Tommy Robinson Thread
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 the silurian  The garden of England.(not really) 22 Apr 21 9.19pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What I dislike most is the substitution of opinion for fact. No-one is ever found guilty of being a pakistani. Other than, of course, by people like you. People are charged and punished, if found guilty, of crimes. Neither being pakistani, Jimmy Saville or children's homes have any relevance to these crimes. Rape is the crime. Whether there is any merit in discussing the resultant societal issues that may have emerged as a consequence of immigration, or how politicians have responded to them, is beside the point. They are serious, but separate, issues which need to be kept separate. Yaxley-Lennon doesn't understand this. Nor do many posters, including yourself, it seems. What distresses me is the fact that instead of actually helping to solve problems the approach of people like Yaxley-Lennon makes things worse. Potentially very much worse. All he is doing is stoking people's prejudices and fears without adding any kind of positive ideas on improvement. what a load of wishy washy bollox.......its fact that pakistani rape gangs operated and still do operate in Rotherham and other northern towns, however much you like to deny it..Noone said All pakistanis are rapists but it is a fact that these gangs were/are predominantly of pakistani origin
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 22 Apr 21 9.25pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It just isn't though. If "the powers that be" have hushed things up then it won't because of the crimes. Courts deal with crimes. It will be for much wider considerations. Additionally, these men are being referred to as "pakistani" but is that actually true? I thought some of those found guilty had other ethnicities. None of us actually know their immigration status. If they have been here more than 5 years and successfully completed the FLR and ILR requirements then they could very easily no longer be pakistani but legally as British as you and me. That's a fact that some here will find difficult to reconcile. None of which relates to whether Mr Yaxley-Lennon was incorrectly described by the prosecution. BS..Ive lived in France for 18 years and I am not and never will be French so just because some pakistani/Indian or whatever lives in UK for 5 years does NOT make them British....you lived in Cornwall for 5 years? Doesnt make you Cornish
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| dannyboy1978 22 Apr 21 10.52pm |
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Funny how these pathetic child rape sympathisers on here get all worked up by using the term pakistani but have no problem with everyone knowing the girls are white. If it was white girls raping pakistani's are we not aloud to call them white as its grouping all whites together? Double standard lefty rxxxxxs
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| Hrolf The Ganger 22 Apr 21 10.54pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What I dislike most is the substitution of opinion for fact. No-one is ever found guilty of being a pakistani. Other than, of course, by people like you. People are charged and punished, if found guilty, of crimes. Neither being pakistani, Jimmy Saville or children's homes have any relevance to these crimes. Rape is the crime. Whether there is any merit in discussing the resultant societal issues that may have emerged as a consequence of immigration, or how politicians have responded to them, is beside the point. They are serious, but separate, issues which need to be kept separate. Yaxley-Lennon doesn't understand this. Nor do many posters, including yourself, it seems. What distresses me is the fact that instead of actually helping to solve problems the approach of people like Yaxley-Lennon makes things worse. Potentially very much worse. All he is doing is stoking people's prejudices and fears without adding any kind of positive ideas on improvement. As usual this is yet another dance around reality. It's what you do. Immigration has everything to do with this problem, as does pakistani culture and racist attitudes towards White people. What makes this situation worse is a failure by people like you to acknowledge the nature of this problem. You would rather play your cowardly fiddle while Britain burns.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 22 Apr 21 11.20pm |
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Originally posted by the silurian
If I want your opinion I will ask for it I wish you would follow your own advice!
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 22 Apr 21 11.24pm |
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Originally posted by the silurian
BS..Ive lived in France for 18 years and I am not and never will be French so just because some pakistani/Indian or whatever lives in UK for 5 years does NOT make them British....you lived in Cornwall for 5 years? Doesnt make you Cornish You would be French if you had applied for citizenship! Cornwall doesn't have a national status. Yet. If it ever did I might well apply, if only out of the shame I feel for some of the disgraceful attitudes found in places like this these days.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 22 Apr 21 11.30pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Funny how these pathetic child rape sympathisers on here get all worked up by using the term pakistani but have no problem with everyone knowing the girls are white. If it was white girls raping pakistani's are we not aloud to call them white as its grouping all whites together? Double standard lefty rxxxxxs I am quite certain no-one here has any sympathy for child rapists, whoever they, or their victims are. In making such a suggestion you expose your own prejudices. Rape is rape and a victim is a victim. No tolerance to be shown to the former and complete protection and support for the latter. The skin colour or ethic origins of either are immaterial.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 21 12.02am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
As usual this is yet another dance around reality. It's what you do. Immigration has everything to do with this problem, as does pakistani culture and racist attitudes towards White people. What makes this situation worse is a failure by people like you to acknowledge the nature of this problem. You would rather play your cowardly fiddle while Britain burns. No, you are the one denying reality. No-one denies there is a problem. However, there is a right way to deal with it, which stands a chance of succeeding and a wrong way which is not only just hot air and p*ssing in the wind but will make things worse. We are where we are with immigration and no amount of wishful thinking or staking out the moral high ground will turn the clock back so we can adopt a different management strategy. We need to deal with what is, and not what isn't. All I ever hear from people like Yaxley-Lennon, and indeed you and other posters here, are statements of the obvious embellished with emotional calls for more to be done. What I don't hear are any practical, legal steps that could be taken that would improve things more swiftly than the very challenging investigative work being quietly done by an under resourced Police force. As I said before it's not a crime to be a pakistani so everyone needs to stop describing these men that way. They are criminals. They need to be seen as criminals by everyone, including those in the communities they come from. Tarnish those communities and they will feel more inclined to hide any of their number who are accused. So stress the criminality and forget everything else. And then argue for greater resources and partnerships with good folk who will be as disgusted as everybody else. Make communities ashamed to know there are criminals in their midst. That work is being done at local level who despise the attempts made by Yaxley-Lennon to stir things up.
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| Mapletree Croydon 23 Apr 21 12.18am |
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Originally posted by the silurian
If I want your opinion I will ask for it If you post on a public site expect others to answer. I need nobody’s permission. If you want a private debate use pm.
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| Mapletree Croydon 23 Apr 21 12.20am |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Is sajid david also far right? How many times. Answer my question. Don’t deflect with another question.
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Teddy Eagle  23 Apr 21 12.29am |
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BlueJay  UK 23 Apr 21 2.00am |
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There is a difference between pushing to act on the fact that there is an issue than is seen to occur within a certain community, and reveling in it. Should no stone should be left unturned in locking people up regardless of perceived cultural sensitivities or any such guff? Yes. Has it always been the case that people are held to account? No. Was it when this depravity was found in the church? No. In children's homes? No. In football clubs? No. It was all hushed up. It's as much the nature of the crime at hand that means it's not always a formality to chase it out of whatever hide hole this depravity is in. Of course it's abhorrent when anyone tries to hush this stuff up. It's equally abhorrent when people are perpetually licking their lips at the fact that they get to combine a group of people they're clearly not keen on, with pedos, when very obviously the vast, vast majority in any racial or religious group are not part of such depravity. Some, in words and actions, clearly couldn't care less about these issues before it ticked the right boxes. This is Tommy's 'business', his pay cheque. And let's not forget the several instances of abuse he neglects to comment on amongst those he's aligned with when they're the ones involved in it. If you look at the stuff with this Syrian kid you can tell the guy's all about publicity come what may. The day he lunged out of his (moving) car to confront a group of men leaving his kids sat in said car, terrified and crying, I knew full well he didn't give a sh!t about kids. His own or other peoples.
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