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Many on here seem to think that we are too good to go down, that our squad is better than others, that we'll get out of the relegation scrap in the end.

Without rose-tinted glasses on, can you tell me who in our squad is good enough for a top 10 side?

Let's look at our starting 11 today:

Speroni - Decent at shot shopping, pretty crap at kicking, very small, no command of his penalty area. Should be retired.

Fosu-Mensah - On loan, not convincing.
Tomkins - West Ham reject.
Dann - Shadow of his former self.
Schlupp - Leicester reject.

Milivojevic - Decent enough.
Cabaye - One game in five player. Past it.
Loftus-Cheek - On loan. Never made an impact in any of his loan spells. Anonymous in most games.
Townsend - Look at his stats. Creates very little and doesn't score.
Zaha - Legend. Our only outlet. But so frustrating. Gives the ball away, dives, gives away needless free-kicks. Needs to grow up. He is still a good player.
Benteke - Biggest waste of money in the club's history. But he gets absolutely no service.

The other problem is our f***ing stupid formation and insistence on playing inverted winners. If you play with inverted wingers you need your full backs to overlap. Ours never, ever, ever overlap, so we have no width, the middle of the pitch is congested and we always lose the ball. We never cross the ball, despite buying Benteke who can literally only score with his head.

We aren't good enough and we're going down.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 12 Dec 17 9.01pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Tez

Many on here seem to think that we are too good to go down, that our squad is better than others, that we'll get out of the relegation scrap in the end.

Without rose-tinted glasses on, can you tell me who in our squad is good enough for a top 10 side?

Let's look at our starting 11 today:

Speroni - Decent at shot shopping, pretty crap at kicking, very small, no command of his penalty area. Should be retired.

Fosu-Mensah - On loan, not convincing.
Tomkins - West Ham reject.
Dann - Shadow of his former self.
Schlupp - Leicester reject.

Milivojevic - Decent enough.
Cabaye - One game in five player. Past it.
Loftus-Cheek - On loan. Never made an impact in any of his loan spells. Anonymous in most games.
Townsend - Look at his stats. Creates very little and doesn't score.
Zaha - Legend. Our only outlet. But so frustrating. Gives the ball away, dives, gives away needless free-kicks. Needs to grow up. He is still a good player.
Benteke - Biggest waste of money in the club's history. But he gets absolutely no service.

The other problem is our f***ing stupid formation and insistence on playing inverted winners. If you play with inverted wingers you need your full backs to overlap. Ours never, ever, ever overlap, so we have no width, the middle of the pitch is congested and we always lose the ball. We never cross the ball, despite buying Benteke who can literally only score with his head.

We aren't good enough and we're going down.

What do you suggest then and why do you think it will work?

 

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View slubglurge's Profile slubglurge Flag welling 12 Dec 17 9.01pm Send a Private Message to slubglurge Add slubglurge as a friend

I agree we are not very good but Loftus-Cheek has never been loaned out before. This is the first time

 

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View cpfccolin's Profile cpfccolin Flag Dorset 12 Dec 17 9.06pm Send a Private Message to cpfccolin Add cpfccolin as a friend

I think we just need a attack minded Manager, what we have now is a Manager that plays a semi safe game

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Tez's Profile Tez Flag Epsom 12 Dec 17 9.18pm Send a Private Message to Tez Add Tez as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

What do you suggest then and why do you think it will work?

Honestly? Our only hope is a new manager and the January window.

Sell Benteke for £30m if we're lucky, there are many players who could do the job he is doing at the moment (focal point who doesn't score any goals anmd cant hold the ball up). Ulloa is one example who we could get for £10m.

Money goes on a couple traditional wingers that can cross the ball. Similar in ilk to Marc Albrighton of Leicester. I'm sure there's plenty of players in the Championship or in the foreign leagues who know how to cross a ball.

Play 4-5-1 with 2 wingers and a no. 10.

 

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View dynamicdick's Profile dynamicdick Flag Dormansland 12 Dec 17 9.20pm Send a Private Message to dynamicdick Add dynamicdick as a friend

Much of what you have said makes sense even though it pains me to say so. Underpinning this is the reliance on certain key players and these being Zaha and Sakho. I would not include Benteke in this.
We saw what effect Zaha being out for 9 games had and Sakho looks to be out for a prolonged period. The bottom line is that we haven't invested in the most important commodity..... The team.

We are faced with a battle and now have to rely on the spirit of the team and astute management to get us over the line. If we pick up any new players of quality in January that will be a bonus but best to set our stall out with what we have got.

Personally, I still think we can survive.


 


Bring back Brolin

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View pompeyeagle's Profile pompeyeagle Flag Relocated to Shropshire 12 Dec 17 9.22pm Send a Private Message to pompeyeagle Add pompeyeagle as a friend

I've tried really hard to be positive this season but I really can't see three teams in this division that are worse than us. I can't help thinking that our failure to sign a striker during the last transfer window and the disastrous appointment of Frank de Boer will ultimately result in us ending up in the Championship.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Tez's Profile Tez Flag Epsom 12 Dec 17 9.33pm Send a Private Message to Tez Add Tez as a friend

As if to prove my point, look at our impact sub.

Bakary Sako - An overweight slob who is barely Championship standard.

Edited by Tez (12 Dec 2017 9.33pm)

 

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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 12 Dec 17 9.45pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Just too many over-rated (by us before buying) expensive players in the squad and a lack of direction and gelling.

In short we have all the attributes of a relegation side.

It's been coming tbf. Too many mistakes off the field over the years and not enough guile on it.

 


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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 12 Dec 17 9.55pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Just too many over-rated (by us before buying) expensive players in the squad and a lack of direction and gelling.

In short we have all the attributes of a relegation side.

It's been coming tbf. Too many mistakes off the field over the years and not enough guile on it.

Oh shut up kermit

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Tez's Profile Tez Flag Epsom 12 Dec 17 9.57pm Send a Private Message to Tez Add Tez as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Oh shut up kermit

I knew this was going to happen.

 

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View dynamicdick's Profile dynamicdick Flag Dormansland 12 Dec 17 10.05pm Send a Private Message to dynamicdick Add dynamicdick as a friend

That overweight slob scored after coming on Tez.....it was written in the stars!!

 


Bring back Brolin

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