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View Casual's Profile Casual Flag Orpington 13 Dec 17 7.57pm Send a Private Message to Casual Add Casual as a friend

If (don’t know if they do or not) the club want our atmosphere to be talked about outside of SE25 they need to move the away fans back next to the holmesdale. Away fans singing “ where’s your famous atmosphere” as they are right up the other end. The Holmesdale would be 20% louder if the away fans came back. I know they were moved when we were skint , £100 grand policing costs per year apparently. We aren’t skint anymore, fine Benteke a months wages for lasts weeks backpass and that’s 5 years old bill. The commentators always say about our crowd, they’d be right in the middle of it it the press box.
If it’s a boring game , there’s always a fat away fan to take the p*ss out of , games like last night would be on a different level, getting it for 85 minutes , then that happened.
There’s minimal trouble in the premier league as it’s so watered down. We are one of the only clubs left with a proper ground. Come on Steve you know it makes sense , you can enjoy it from the new ‘everest Windows’ stand.

 

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View TheArmaniCode's Profile TheArmaniCode Flag 13 Dec 17 8.31pm Send a Private Message to TheArmaniCode Add TheArmaniCode as a friend

I like sitting there though. But I get your point

 

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View regal_eagle's Profile regal_eagle Flag somewhere 13 Dec 17 8.56pm Send a Private Message to regal_eagle Add regal_eagle as a friend

So move the Away fans back so the Holmesdale makes more noise?

As far as I could hear last night, BlockB was (as usual) making the majority of the noise throughout the match. Moving the Away fans back would distract us from supporting the team, instead it would all be about the pantomime fatty in Row3.

The atmosphere was crap last night, but it wasn't the HF to blame, or those around /behind them, it was mainly due to the dross being served up on the pitch. How about the rest of the ground pick up the baton and make some noise or (God forbid) start their own song instead of relying on the usual 'suspects'.

If you're worried about Away fans signing about our atmosphere, how about those lot nearest make some noise en masse. I see a handful of people occasionally stand up and give it back to them, people should be following their lead.

We actually had a couple of songs come from the back of the Hol last night which was great, we just need more of it from the rest of the ground. I am admittedly bit of a 'noise nazi' though, and get pissed off at the 'BlockB tourists' standing there just to absorb the atmosphere and give nothing back. If it were up to me I'd install decibel meters at the entrance gate to check you're loud enough to enter the hallowed ground. Luckily for you quiet SOBs I'm not in charge. Yet.

Another problem with them being moved back is that they would be all the teams can see as they walk out, not great for the Home side.

 

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jeeagles Flag 13 Dec 17 9.13pm

I don't think it's worth spending £100k for police if it can be easily avoided.

We've still got the best atmosphere in the league. The noisy sections of the crowd seem to still be spreading across the Holmesdale and along the Arthur.

Being 1-0 down after a few minutes and not playing well didn't help, but most premiership fans would have been exiting the ground rapidly before the end if they were losing.

I've also noticed the guys at the front of the HF have changed. Their songs are getting more introvert and drowning out other areas of the ground from songs starting. Perhaps it would be better if they concentrate a bit more on what was going in the rest of the stadium.

I still like to see us revert to simpler chants to crank the atmosphere up another notch when we have an attacking set piece.

Also when we are defending the intensity needs to increase rather just carrying on singing the same song regardless.

 

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View iheartcpfc's Profile iheartcpfc Flag SE25 16 Dec 17 1.53am Send a Private Message to iheartcpfc Add iheartcpfc as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

I don't think it's worth spending £100k for police if it can be easily avoided.

We've still got the best atmosphere in the league. The noisy sections of the crowd seem to still be spreading across the Holmesdale and along the Arthur.

Being 1-0 down after a few minutes and not playing well didn't help, but most premiership fans would have been exiting the ground rapidly before the end if they were losing.

I've also noticed the guys at the front of the HF have changed. Their songs are getting more introvert and drowning out other areas of the ground from songs starting. Perhaps it would be better if they concentrate a bit more on what was going in the rest of the stadium.

I still like to see us revert to simpler chants to crank the atmosphere up another notch when we have an attacking set piece.

Also when we are defending the intensity needs to increase rather just carrying on singing the same song regardless.

like what?

 

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chateauferret Flag 16 Dec 17 2.10am

In the case of weed fans I would have thought the thing to do was not to let them into the ground in the first place, then once the game has started kettle them back to the station and onto southbound trains.

 


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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 16 Dec 17 8.39am Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

I suspect the away fans would drown out the HF. And I think there would be minor bits of trouble quite frequently inside the ground. Missile throwing, fans trying to confront each other etc.

I also think tensions leaving the ground would be much more heightened. HF gobbing off to West Ham all game. West Ham are gonna get fired up.

Having sat in both the Holmesdale and the White Horse, I can confirm the away fans are almost always multiple times louder than the HF. It's an assumption that the rest of the Holmesdale would step up to improve the atmosphere. I don't think they would...not week in, week out.

and it's not the policing cost the club probably cares about...it's the reputational cost.

 


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View Dangermouse's Profile Dangermouse Flag Hastings 16 Dec 17 9.04am Send a Private Message to Dangermouse Add Dangermouse as a friend

The away fans are already in the loudest part of the ground. An old tin shed has always been acoustically brilliant, remember the old Shed end at Chelsea?
With the Arthur and the HF in that corner they get a little benefit from the acoustics, but put away fans there and they will drown out the Holmesdale.
I've always believed the away fans should be at the Whitehorse end. The acoustics there are non existent and also they wouldn't be behind the lino. Think the Whitehorse holds just enough legally ticket wise so it shouldn't be a problem.

 


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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 16 Dec 17 9.32am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Trouble is fans throw bottles and other stuff, I guess that's the reason.

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 16 Dec 17 9.46am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by Dangermouse

The away fans are already in the loudest part of the ground. An old tin shed has always been acoustically brilliant, remember the old Shed end at Chelsea?
With the Arthur and the HF in that corner they get a little benefit from the acoustics, but put away fans there and they will drown out the Holmesdale.
I've always believed the away fans should be at the Whitehorse end. The acoustics there are non existent and also they wouldn't be behind the lino. Think the Whitehorse holds just enough legally ticket wise so it shouldn't be a problem.

Psychologically you don't need a bank of away support behind one of the goals and anyway the capacity is insufficient at 2,245.

 


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So a bank of away supporters behind the lino is OK?
Sorry, but wherever your bank of support is has no relevance in my opinion. Giving them the loudest part of the ground, behind the lino does.
As for numbers, let's just hide behind health and safety like Brighton are doing.

Edited by Dangermouse (16 Dec 2017 9.52am)

 


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