We appear to be arguing at cross purposes.

You are right to criticise SA but they aren't the main problem for social conservatism here......and that's where the problem springs from....that's its base.

In the UK 75% of Muslims are Sunni and 8% are Shia from figures from the economist in 2015.

From when I looked at this the main problem school here is the Deobandi school. They are the majority socially conservative group running mosques here.

(an extract from 'Islam in the United Kingdom' on Wiki)

In 2015, The Economist stated that were 2.3 million Sunnis in the UK....the other main group being 400,000 Shias...the other groups being far smaller.

Among British Sunnis in 2017, 66.7% were just non-denominational Sunni, 5.9% were Barelvi, 5.0% were Salafist, 4.1% were Deobandi, and 18.3% adhered to another other Sunni Islam.

The majority of British mosques are Sunni, including Deobandi, Barelvis and Salafi. In 2010 the affiliation of the mosques was: 44.6% Deobandi, 28.2% Barelvi and other Sufi, 5.8% Salafi, 2.8% Maudoodi-inspired; of the remainder many were part of other Sunni traditions or unaffiliated, while 4.2% were Shi'a. The majority of mosque managers are of pakistani and Bangladeshi origin, with many Gujarati, and fewer Arab, Turkish and Somali managed entities.

So you see Kermit.....the main drivers of social conservatism isn't just Salafi by any means. The extremists come from socially conservative mainly Sunni Islam and migrate across......they aren't all going to Salafi mosques....it's a limited view.

I do think it's important to keep the Saudis onside internationally in the middle east but that's got nothing to do with mosques here.

All mosques that don't reform into more socially liberal forms of Islam....as with consultations with reformers....all those mostques would be closed down anyway.....So only moderate forms could continue.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

These schools are far older than since SA got rich and started exporting its own forms.

You don't understand Sunni Islam at all if you think that it's only socially conservative schools come from there.

The school of thought who run the most mosques in the UK is the Deobandi school and its been socially conservative since its founding in 1867 in India...which is how old it is.

Nope, extremism doesn't just come from one school in Islam. You are just wrong.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

And that reply just reinforces my opinion your prosaic mindset and sheer lack of intellectual ability to see the bigger picture.

Of course there is social conservatism in different facets of Islam. Duh! It's the same in all the major religions.

It's the extreme social conservatism that is and has been and will be again the destructive force on our shores.
Tell you what - you carry on concerning yourself with repressed Muslims as that is where you are obviously most comfortable and I'll carry on highlighting what is and who is behind the evolution of extreme killer terrorist groups and possible ways to cut off their oxygen.

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Genuine question, there are maybe 4 million muslims in this country, would you be content if we replaced them with 4 million christian Ethiopians? Not a trick question, just asking out of curiosity...

Well im glad we have some middle ground at least!
I mean purely as a thought exercise here, if it was never muslims in the first place, if it was 4 million christian Ethiopians than moved here and not 4 million muslims, would you lot have been more content with that?

Well saying goodbye to EU citizens here is obviously going to increase the immigration rate of non-EU to fill the employment gaps so you can't have voted Leave with that preference in mind. Or did you?

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