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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Well a British Court of Law, ruled that it was down to race, and that the police and local authority, on the basis of the case argued, and evidence presented - And that the police and local authorities failure to act was down to 'instituationalised racism'.

So it fulfils a number of legal requirements. That on review, by a legally appointed member of the judiciary, that on the balance of evidence presented by both the claimant and the respondents, and the arguments by their legal council, that the police and local authority, failed in their duty, not because of incompetence, but due to racial grounds.

Now maybe the court findings were wrong, but then that's where the Police and Local Authority can appeal the decision on a matter of law.

I'm not really sure how much more you'd need before accepting that - The evidence for the claimants (family) case was accepted by the court.

Its not like the Police and Local Authority settled out of court. They went to court, and lost the case.

I think I made it quite clear on what basis I am cynical about this type of thing.

The fact that the court accept the term, 'instituationalised racism' takes away any particular faith I might have had in it.

A man died....the police didn't do their job properly.....that's all I'm certain about.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 19 Dec 17 1.19pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I think I made it quite clear on what basis I am cynical about this type of thing.

The fact that the court accept the term, 'instituationalised racism' takes away any particular faith I might have had in it.

A man died....the police didn't do their job properly.....that's all I'm certain about.

Two police officers were also convicted of misconduct in office and given prison sentences relating to the case.

The victim made 17 allegations of assault, seven of receiving threats to kill, five of harassment, five of criminal damage, 12 public order related complaints, was the victim of an arson attack and one of cruelty to his pet cat.

Its not just the police though, its also the council who failed this poor bloke.

The police officers sent to prison, were found guilty beyond reasonable doubt, and its pretty clear from their convictions that they just saw the guy as a time waster, and wrote him off (despite turning up following one of his murderers breaking into his house and threatening him - they arrested the victim instead).

Incidently, following allegations by his absuers, he was arrested several times. Only one of the incidents relating to the victim, prior to the murder, resulted in the police taking action (when someone threw boiling water over him).

Was it institutionalised racism, who can be sure. But regardless, it represents a complete and utter failure of the police and local authority (who could have moved him) to do even a reasonable facsimile of their job.

 


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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

The murder isn't the point here. The point is that it came after a long period of sustained criminality focused on the victim, who repeatedly reported this to the Local authority and the Police, who in turn did nothing (in fact less than nothing, the Police on several occasions actively sided with the residents who were victimising the man).

Also the police and local authorities were aware, when he was being targeted as a pedophile, and did nothing until he was eventually beaten to death by residents on the estate, his body dragged to wasteground and he was set on fire.

I agree but I figured that point had probably been made several times by the time I read it, so I pointed out something that might not have been...the whole case is horrific and im sure all of us have dealt with the police doing the 'yeah, we cant really do anything until...' and I can only hope the police learn from it. It wouldnt be great if people didnt have to die before action is taken butyet again we find ourselves in that situation...

 

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