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chris123 hove actually 20 Nov 18 12.09pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Hey hey....controversial! It'll need to be a significant and hard crash EU wide......I'm a tight barsteward. Well they could manage Greece - Italian debt is too big
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hove actually 20 Nov 18 12.09pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Hey hey....controversial!

It'll need to be a significant and hard crash EU wide......I'm a tight barsteward.

Well they could manage Greece - Italian debt is too big

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Stirlingsays 20 Nov 18 1.27pm
Originally posted by chris123 Well they could manage Greece - Italian debt is too big Yep.....but surely they will just continue with the giant quantitative easing.....shoving massive credits into the financial markets. Not healing the wound but just continuing with the painkillers. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Nov 2018 1.27pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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20 Nov 18 1.27pm

Originally posted by chris123

Well they could manage Greece - Italian debt is too big

Yep.....but surely they will just continue with the giant quantitative easing.....shoving massive credits into the financial markets.

Not healing the wound but just continuing with the painkillers.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Nov 2018 1.27pm)

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chris123 hove actually 20 Nov 18 2.58pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Yep.....but surely they will just continue with the giant quantitative easing.....shoving massive credits into the financial markets. Not healing the wound but just continuing with the painkillers. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Nov 2018 1.27pm) Only central banks - Italy needs to grow its economy but youth unemployment in particular is very high and the bond market is weak Edited by chris123 (20 Nov 2018 2.59pm)
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hove actually 20 Nov 18 2.58pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yep.....but surely they will just continue with the giant quantitative easing.....shoving massive credits into the financial markets.

Not healing the wound but just continuing with the painkillers.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Nov 2018 1.27pm)

Only central banks - Italy needs to grow its economy but youth unemployment in particular is very high and the bond market is weak

Edited by chris123 (20 Nov 2018 2.59pm)

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.TUX. 20 Nov 18 4.46pm
Originally posted by chris123 I like things to be a bit predictable so you know the fundamentals are in place - this is all over the shop Absolutely, but sudden dumps don't happen for no reason. The infrastructure is improving everyday and there's way too many institutions investing in this 'space' for these continued manipulations to be a coincidence. Buy yourself an early xmas gift Buy Litecoin.
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20 Nov 18 4.46pm

Originally posted by chris123

I like things to be a bit predictable so you know the fundamentals are in place - this is all over the shop

Absolutely, but sudden dumps don't happen for no reason.
The infrastructure is improving everyday and there's way too many institutions investing in this 'space' for these continued manipulations to be a coincidence.

Buy yourself an early xmas gift

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.TUX. 20 Nov 18 4.52pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I'm pretty sure that when we get the next crash that the tide will turn for cryptos. When that s***e hits I'll probably be investing in some. Many talking of 20k Dow by the end of the month, a short rebound and then the wheels come off. Buy Litecoin.
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20 Nov 18 4.52pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'm pretty sure that when we get the next crash that the tide will turn for cryptos.

When that s***e hits I'll probably be investing in some.

Many talking of 20k Dow by the end of the month, a short rebound and then the wheels come off.

Buy Litecoin.

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.TUX. 20 Nov 18 4.58pm
Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle Further huge falls today. Most currencies are down around 30% in one week! Glad I sold when I did. Hard to know when it will hit the bottom. Personally I think we have a long way to go still. Not too far to go now i think given the year overall. What's the old saying, ''Never chase the top or bottom 10%''. 15mins well spent imo........ [Link] Buy Litecoin.
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20 Nov 18 4.58pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Further huge falls today.

Most currencies are down around 30% in one week!

Glad I sold when I did. Hard to know when it will hit the bottom. Personally I think we have a long way to go still.

Not too far to go now i think given the year overall. What's the old saying, ''Never chase the top or bottom 10%''.

15mins well spent imo........

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.TUX. 20 Nov 18 4.58pm
Originally posted by chris123 Like Italy in a wee while? Or Deutsche Bank bud............... Buy Litecoin.
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20 Nov 18 4.58pm

Originally posted by chris123

Like Italy in a wee while?

Or Deutsche Bank bud...............

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Bexley Eagle Bexley Kent 20 Nov 18 5.08pm
Markets are just a mechanism for valuing something at a point in time. They are very inefficient. They tend to work to extremes. The house I work for still believe this is a correction rather than the start of a bear market. However for Cyptos especially it has been a bear market since January. As with the tech stocks beforehand, most will end up worthless. A handful may possibly thrive, but not until the big investment banks say so. For small caps many have been heading south for months. Personally in situations like this you are better off sitting on your hands (and cash). Shares are seeing any recoveries sold off. Funds are now seeing redemptions, and to cover those redemptions they will have to sell more shares. It�s a vicious circle that has only just started IMHO. Looking at the historical charts for the FTSE and Dow a case could easily be made for the FTSE to fall to 6000, and if we see a Lehmans type sell off then nearer 5000. Don�t catch a falling knife.
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Bexley Kent 20 Nov 18 5.08pm

Markets are just a mechanism for valuing something at a point in time. They are very inefficient. They tend to work to extremes. The house I work for still believe this is a correction rather than the start of a bear market. However for Cyptos especially it has been a bear market since January. As with the tech stocks beforehand, most will end up worthless. A handful may possibly thrive, but not until the big investment banks say so. For small caps many have been heading south for months.
Personally in situations like this you are better off sitting on your hands (and cash). Shares are seeing any recoveries sold off. Funds are now seeing redemptions, and to cover those redemptions they will have to sell more shares. It�s a vicious circle that has only just started IMHO. Looking at the historical charts for the FTSE and Dow a case could easily be made for the FTSE to fall to 6000, and if we see a Lehmans type sell off then nearer 5000. Don�t catch a falling knife.

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.TUX. 20 Nov 18 5.11pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Yep.....but surely they will just continue with the giant quantitative easing.....shoving massive credits into the financial markets. Not healing the wound but just continuing with the painkillers. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Nov 2018 1.27pm) The ECB can continue the printing (from thin-air) to prop-up their failing economy (good evening Remainers) for as long as they like as it'll make no difference. However, The Fed cutting back does. It's 'funding' of the markets has been dropping for a while now and all we've seen is huge volatility. This is no coincidence and the volatility will only get worse. There's a clear correlation between Central Bank funding and Stock Market performance (over decades). When the funds are released the market goes up. When they lessen............. Exciting times ahead (sadly not for all of us). Buy Litecoin.
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20 Nov 18 5.11pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yep.....but surely they will just continue with the giant quantitative easing.....shoving massive credits into the financial markets.

Not healing the wound but just continuing with the painkillers.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Nov 2018 1.27pm)

The ECB can continue the printing (from thin-air) to prop-up their failing economy (good evening Remainers) for as long as they like as it'll make no difference. However, The Fed cutting back does. It's 'funding' of the markets has been dropping for a while now and all we've seen is huge volatility. This is no coincidence and the volatility will only get worse.
There's a clear correlation between Central Bank funding and Stock Market performance (over decades). When the funds are released the market goes up. When they lessen.............

Exciting times ahead (sadly not for all of us).

Buy Litecoin.

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.TUX. 20 Nov 18 5.20pm
Originally posted by Bexley Eagle Markets are just a mechanism for valuing something at a point in time. They are very inefficient. They tend to work to extremes. The house I work for still believe this is a correction rather than the start of a bear market. However for Cyptos especially it has been a bear market since January. As with the tech stocks beforehand, most will end up worthless. A handful may possibly thrive, but not until the big investment banks say so. For small caps many have been heading south for months. Personally in situations like this you are better off sitting on your hands (and cash). Shares are seeing any recoveries sold off. Funds are now seeing redemptions, and to cover those redemptions they will have to sell more shares. It�s a vicious circle that has only just started IMHO. Looking at the historical charts for the FTSE and Dow a case could easily be made for the FTSE to fall to 6000, and if we see a Lehmans type sell off then nearer 5000. Don�t catch a falling knife. 1. Possibly bud, but Deutsche Bank says 89% of all asset classes it tracks are negative this year � the worst year since 1901. 2. Or much lower. Lehmans was (obviously) big but the current situation surpasses that that led to 08. Squeaky bum time. Buy Litecoin.
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20 Nov 18 5.20pm

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

Markets are just a mechanism for valuing something at a point in time. They are very inefficient. They tend to work to extremes. The house I work for still believe this is a correction rather than the start of a bear market. However for Cyptos especially it has been a bear market since January. As with the tech stocks beforehand, most will end up worthless. A handful may possibly thrive, but not until the big investment banks say so. For small caps many have been heading south for months.
Personally in situations like this you are better off sitting on your hands (and cash). Shares are seeing any recoveries sold off. Funds are now seeing redemptions, and to cover those redemptions they will have to sell more shares. It�s a vicious circle that has only just started IMHO. Looking at the historical charts for the FTSE and Dow a case could easily be made for the FTSE to fall to 6000, and if we see a Lehmans type sell off then nearer 5000. Don�t catch a falling knife.

1. Possibly bud, but Deutsche Bank says 89% of all asset classes it tracks are negative this year � the worst year since 1901.
2. Or much lower. Lehmans was (obviously) big but the current situation surpasses that that led to 08.

Squeaky bum time.

Buy Litecoin.

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chris123 hove actually 20 Nov 18 6.57pm
Originally posted by .TUX. The ECB can continue the printing (from thin-air) to prop-up their failing economy (good evening Remainers) for as long as they like as it'll make no difference. However, The Fed cutting back does. It's 'funding' of the markets has been dropping for a while now and all we've seen is huge volatility. This is no coincidence and the volatility will only get worse. There's a clear correlation between Central Bank funding and Stock Market performance (over decades). When the funds are released the market goes up. When they lessen............. Exciting times ahead (sadly not for all of us). Not sure QE helps Italian debt - more likely to help Germany via an under valued euro.
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hove actually 20 Nov 18 6.57pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

Exciting times ahead (sadly not for all of us).

Not sure QE helps Italian debt - more likely to help Germany via an under valued euro.

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.TUX. 20 Nov 18 7.36pm
Originally posted by chris123 Not sure QE helps Italian debt - more likely to help Germany via an under valued euro. QE helps nobody that truly keeps any economy in motion, ie us, it always goes straight to the top. Italy wants to sort its own finances out but this goes against EU plans, no surprise there. Germany (the EU) is currently crapping itself as things aren't going so well. And now they have the Deutshe Bank money laundering scandal to cope with. Tough times ahead. Buy Litecoin.
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20 Nov 18 7.36pm

Originally posted by chris123

Not sure QE helps Italian debt - more likely to help Germany via an under valued euro.

QE helps nobody that truly keeps any economy in motion, ie us, it always goes straight to the top.
Italy wants to sort its own finances out but this goes against EU plans, no surprise there.
Germany (the EU) is currently crapping itself as things aren't going so well.
And now they have the Deutshe Bank money laundering scandal to cope with.

Tough times ahead.

Buy Litecoin.

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