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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 20 Aug 19 1.57am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Yes, exactly this.

There is a recent shift on various threads with Banteke's lack of goals being due to lack of service.

He has become lazy, hardly breaks into a jog and more importantly misses sitters when the chances come.

There was an actual stat of sitters missed %age and he was top.

If does make you wonder why Roy plays him though

Team that beat Bournemouth all available last week apart from AWB and BATS, and we failed to get either a RB or a striker in the window.

Presumably Sheff Utd will batter Bournemouth

Originally posted by pssguy

Exactly. eight goals in our final 2 games of last season with Benteke not playing a minute

 


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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 20 Aug 19 4.12am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

I don’t buy it that it’s the other players fault. Maybe I would if he hadn’t scored for say 5 games and he was jumping up and down about the tactics but this is a STRIKER who has scored 3 goals in 2 seasons in a mid table team. If our board continue to ignore our need for an out and out goal scorer effectively forcing our manager to play him due to lack of anyone else then the inevitable will catch up with us. RH is himself a very quiet mannered man who like Benteke would appear to be keeping his head down to protect his salary but eventually all this hiding is going to bite us big time.
Truth is, our chairman, manager and centre forward are all 3 past their sell by dates. Our DoF is either hopeless or not being allowed to perform which is no excuse.
If SP doesn’t accept this situation and sell because he is so in love with the club/himself and the position of power/fame it gives him then I fear we will stagnate or worse from here on.

 

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I agree about getting the ball in early. At least then we could see if Benteke is capable of getting on the end of a cross. Problem is neither Zaha or Townsend are particularly good at putting in an accurate threatening cross.

 

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Originally posted by dreamwaverider

I don’t buy it that it’s the other players fault. Maybe I would if he hadn’t scored for say 5 games and he was jumping up and down about the tactics but this is a STRIKER who has scored 3 goals in 2 seasons in a mid table team. If our board continue to ignore our need for an out and out goal scorer effectively forcing our manager to play him due to lack of anyone else then the inevitable will catch up with us. RH is himself a very quiet mannered man who like Benteke would appear to be keeping his head down to protect his salary but eventually all this hiding is going to bite us big time.
Truth is, our chairman, manager and centre forward are all 3 past their sell by dates. Our DoF is either hopeless or not being allowed to perform which is no excuse.
If SP doesn’t accept this situation and sell because he is so in love with the club/himself and the position of power/fame it gives him then I fear we will stagnate or worse from here on.


When did we last have a striker who scored lots of goals? Strikers have come to us on permanent or on loan and generally they have not been a success with us but scored after they left Solorth for a current example. Benteke scored when we played to his strengths, and Murray all those years ago in championship. If we are to play a striker whose main strength is in the air then we need to play to that strength. I agree that he has lost confidence but the only way he will get it back is to start scoring. Ayew in my view is not a target man but better playing off a tall striker. Wickham has over his careeer played both sort of roles. Zaha for all his strengths is not a world class striker but he is a world class winger.

I would to see us play Zaha and Townsend as wingers supplying a front 2 of Wickham/Benteke as the target man with Meyer/ Camarasa as the number 10. I would put Mcarthy,and Luka in Midfield. Due to injuries our back 4 will probably change little however I can see Cahill replacing Dann when fit

 

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View Bangell's Profile Bangell Flag Oxford 20 Aug 19 4.00pm Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Originally posted by Palace in the Blood


I would to see us play Zaha and Townsend as wingers supplying a front 2 of Wickham/Benteke as the target man with Meyer/ Camarasa as the number 10. I would put Mcarthy,and Luka in Midfield. Due to injuries our back 4 will probably change little however I can see Cahill replacing Dann when fit

Playing Wilf and Andros as wingers with two strikers won't work because Wilf isn't going to track back properly, so we'll be exposed down one flank - and with our current full-backs, they need all the protection they can get.

Edited by Bangell (20 Aug 2019 4.01pm)

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 20 Aug 19 4.54pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Bangell

Playing Wilf and Andros as wingers with two strikers won't work because Wilf isn't going to track back properly, so we'll be exposed down one flank - and with our current full-backs, they need all the protection they can get.

Edited by Bangell (20 Aug 2019 4.01pm)

That is spot on, Wilf cant play wide, wont do the work anymore, hence no wingers should mean no Benteke, Roy doesn't seem to have grasped that, Ayew or Townsend are the only option to partner Wilf,

 


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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 21 Aug 19 7.38am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

What does benteke do to earn his place?

Goals ,nope
Assists, nope
Heading, nope
Harrasing defenders, nope
A leader, nope,
Chest the ball 3 times a match, yep

What does Roy see in him!

Look at these strengths and weaknesses,
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Edited by dannyboy1978 (21 Aug 2019 7.43am)

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 21 Aug 19 7.48am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

What does benteke do to earn his place?

Goals ,nope
Assists, nope
Heading, nope
Harrasing defenders, nope
A leader, nope,
Chest the ball 3 times a match, yep

What does Roy see in him!

Look at these strengths and weaknesses,
[Link]

Edited by dannyboy1978 (21 Aug 2019 7.43am)


I agree, I am done trying to defend him now. Yes his service is s***e but he makes zero runs down the channels, is getting bullied off nearly ever ball now be it on the ground or in the air and one of my biggest problems with him is that he never ever demands the ball or shows like he wants it. If he was to scream at our players then they would give it to him. He is too nice and looks like he is constantly hiding.


 

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View JohnB's Profile JohnB Flag 22 Aug 19 7.31am Send a Private Message to JohnB Add JohnB as a friend

Benteke to be offered new contract

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View crvenaeagle's Profile crvenaeagle Flag 22 Aug 19 7.37am Send a Private Message to crvenaeagle Add crvenaeagle as a friend

Originally posted by JohnB

Benteke to be offered new contract

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No way, this has GOT to be clickbait. The fact that they used that silly picture of Tomkins and Guita tells me it's not serious, it HAS TO be bulls***.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 22 Aug 19 7.38am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

According to the Mail, Benteke has just been offered a new contract. I get that will protect his value but what is that now in comparison to wages. He can’t be worth more than £5 m. So that will give us one year at a 20% drop on salary.
He should have been sold along with Wilf and Wickham this summer and new marquee signings come in.
Who is running the club? The lack of transfer activity is alarming. And now this. Am I missing something on the pitch. Judging by the posts on here it seems like most fans have woken up to the harsh but realistic solutions.
To survive in the premier we need to be trading players.
How many top clubs are still playing target man football. Speed stealth skill is the name of the game nowadays. We tried it with Bats but lost him.
Come on Palace. Wake up.

 

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View TomThePalaceFanatic's Profile TomThePalaceFanatic Flag 22 Aug 19 7.42am Send a Private Message to TomThePalaceFanatic Add TomThePalaceFanatic as a friend

Offering a new contract is truly ridiculous. Proves the ineptitude of the people running the club to an even greater degree, if true.

 

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