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Yesterday's one on one with Cech summed up his season for me - all he had to do was chip it like he did against Chelsea last season an it was a certain goal, but no, blasts it straight at Cech. Don't know what's going on in his mind but that was poor.

 

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Originally posted by mattteo

No it isn't. Not in that amount of minutes. A good return is what Josh King, Llorente, Andre Gray, Slimani, Andy Carroll, Charlie Austin, Abel Hernandez, Oumar Niasse, Michail Antonio, Ighalo, Crouch, Ulloa, Gabbiadini, Mitrovic, Glenn Murray, Dwight Gayle provided. Not talking about Vardy or Lukaku in Leicester or Everton.

Pretty much all the other strikers for struggling teams.
We're talking about actual minutes played here. If Benteke had played as much the ones above, he'd have had 3 goals last year, not 13.

Interesting to see you quoted Gabbiadini. Yesterday at 8.36am on the Eder thread (jeez how sad am I!!) you seemed to criticise Gabbiadini.s impact. Perhaps as you wanted to "diss" another player linked to Palace

 

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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Yesterday's one on one with Cech summed up his season for me - all he had to do was chip it like he did against Chelsea last season an it was a certain goal, but no, blasts it straight at Cech. Don't know what's going on in his mind but that was poor.

Totally agree the finish of a striker completely void of any confidence. I do get the feeling that Roy and some of the players (especially Wilf) are losing patience with him.
I stick to my judgement that last season he was a big factor in keeping us up.

 

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View dynamicdick's Profile dynamicdick Flag Dormansland 21 Jan 18 6.28pm Send a Private Message to dynamicdick Add dynamicdick as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Totally agree the finish of a striker completely void of any confidence. I do get the feeling that Roy and some of the players (especially Wilf) are losing patience with him.
I stick to my judgement that last season he was a big factor in keeping us up.

It's not just the confidence its his complete lack of effort. What the hell is he doing on the training ground and how much game time is needed for him to start firing and first of all giving a positive contribution to the team. Also please stop harping back to his goals last season, that is the past. He was bought for big bucks not to create the most assists but score goals and lots of them. Sadly lacking in every aspect. Patience is wearing thin but at this moment in time what is the other option?

 


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Originally posted by dynamicdick

It's not just the confidence its his complete lack of effort. What the hell is he doing on the training ground and how much game time is needed for him to start firing and first of all giving a positive contribution to the team. Also please stop harping back to his goals last season, that is the past. He was bought for big bucks not to create the most assists but score goals and lots of them. Sadly lacking in every aspect. Patience is wearing thin but at this moment in time what is the other option?

None, but hopefully in 10 days we will know.

 


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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Yesterday's one on one with Cech summed up his season for me - all he had to do was chip it like he did against Chelsea last season an it was a certain goal, but no, blasts it straight at Cech. Don't know what's going on in his mind but that was poor.

I was watching goals from thd championship and other divs yesterday and j think there were 3 or 4 chances exactly the same and each player just lifted it over the keeper. Easy chance which he should have scored from.

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 21 Jan 18 7.17pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Interesting to see you quoted Gabbiadini. Yesterday at 8.36am on the Eder thread (jeez how sad am I!!) you seemed to criticise Gabbiadini.s impact. Perhaps as you wanted to "diss" another player linked to Palace


Just making a point that even someone like Gabbiadini has done more in his minutes than Benteke. It doesn't mean I rate Gabbiadini very highly. But his initial impact was very good

Edited by mattteo (21 Jan 2018 7.37pm)

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 21 Jan 18 7.39pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Can I ask how many times you saw Benteke play last season (live, not on TV or Football Manager).
Gayle and Murray were in the Championship, cannot relate to your argument. Would any of the others scored more for Palace? I don't know. What I do know is you seem to have a downer on most players Palace are linked with and also several regulars. Are you really a fan or just someone who enjoys producing nonsense, irrelevant facts?

None. Zero. I don't go to the stadium. Are you trying to tell me I'm missing out on his wonderful movement which I can't see on tv?

Gayle and Murray were PL players for 3000 minutes too, like Benteke had last season. Guess what they did in those 3000 minutes!

 

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Originally posted by mattteo

None. Zero. I don't go to the stadium. Are you trying to tell me I'm missing out on his wonderful movement which I can't see on tv?

Gayle and Murray were PL players for 3000 minutes too, like Benteke had last season. Guess what they did in those 3000 minutes!

What I am saying is TV does not pick up on everything. The commentators tell you what they want. I am not defending CB regarding his goal scoring record this year but please, dont act like an expert when you dont see him live. When are you talking about regarding Gayle and Murray? Certainly not last year as they were both in the Championship. Do you not think the Premiership has "moved on" since those days?

 

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Originally posted by mattteo

Just making a point that even someone like Gabbiadini has done more in his minutes than Benteke. It doesn't mean I rate Gabbiadini very highly. But his initial impact was very good

Edited by mattteo (21 Jan 2018 7.37pm)

Not the impression you gave with your comments.

 

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Originally posted by Spiderman

Not the impression you gave with your comments.

How come? On the transfer thread, I said Eder would have a Gabbiadini impact, at best. Then fade to nothingness cause he's fat and lazy and past it at 32 years. Or he could just have a Zaza impact (that is no impact at all) from the start


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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag 21 Jan 18 9.07pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

Just making a point that even someone like Gabbiadini has done more in his minutes than Benteke. It doesn't mean I rate Gabbiadini very highly. But his initial impact was very good

Edited by mattteo (21 Jan 2018 7.37pm)

The left-footed Gabbiadini has excellent movement.His major strength is his finishing but he can link the play as well.Not lightning quick but is always on the move in the area.Prefers balls coming in to his feet and is a player who makes runs to the near post to attack crosses.Puel signed him for £14 Mill.

Edited by Willo (21 Jan 2018 9.08pm)

 

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