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View Nobbybm's Profile Nobbybm Flag Dartford 28 Dec 17 11.19pm Send a Private Message to Nobbybm Add Nobbybm as a friend

On train home so haven’t seen replays - should Sanchez have been flagged offside for their first & was the second a foul on Kelly?

 


Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

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View DutchEagleJohan's Profile DutchEagleJohan Flag Vlissingen, Netherlands 28 Dec 17 11.31pm Send a Private Message to DutchEagleJohan Add DutchEagleJohan as a friend

Sorry ferret but have to disagree. It certainly was not a foul and Oliver had a decent game I think. Wilf in the first half was making a lot of fuss about "fouls" that weren't

Originally posted by chateauferret

With that ref? A pen for us? Are you joking?

He was so biased it beggared belief. I don't think he gave Wilf a single decision in the whole game.


 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 28 Dec 17 11.50pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Arsenal were quality at times tonight and we only stayed in the game because of good defending and goalkeeping first half.

Even when we got the equaliser and had a decent spell they looked capable going up a gear and ultimately the difference was them having one of the best players in the world.

Even so with a bit of luck and composure in the last third we could have nicked a draw

No complaints and keep going as we are we'll be ok.

Ref was awful - on incident second half where Wilshere fell over and we were bearing down on goal really stands out.

 

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View ex hibitionist's Profile ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 29 Dec 17 12.26am Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

Originally posted by xomnea

I count 2/3 where if he had bothered to run across his defender he would have had a tap in. But he didn’t, because he stands idle.

The ‘he’s getting no service’ line is the most short sighted used on this site, If hes not moving into the right areas, none of the crosses are going to be ‘quality’.

If he gambles and scores 2/3 tap ins, the service was excellent.

Edited by xomnea (28 Dec 2017 10.18pm)

Edited by xomnea (28 Dec 2017 10.18pm)

after the Leicester game MOTD highlighted about four occasions where Benteke was too late with his run - they thought his anticipation would improve as he got fitter after his injury, but he never got free of his markers tonight when we got behind them, which we did several times, and the way Zaha has improved his movement so he can receive the ball in a better position to attack the full back is striking (well done Roy) - Benteke could with improving his movement and anticipation

 

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View dynamicdick's Profile dynamicdick Flag Dormansland 29 Dec 17 12.28am Send a Private Message to dynamicdick Add dynamicdick as a friend

Originally posted by lefty27

Yeh I guess, if he moved across the defenders he’d score 2/3 a game, just like the last prolific premier league Palace striker, I forget his name.... scape goating on this site, always one player, mental. There were plenty of players that made mistakes tonight, support the team, they win and they lose.

Benteke deserves every bit of criticism, he is not a scape goat but a player who picks up a huge wage and consistently fails to deliver not just with goals but a positive contribution to the team in terms of application, movement and inspiration. I would go as far to say that his performance tonight was shameful.
I am also curious to know what you thought he brought to the team this evening?

 


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View merganser's Profile merganser Flag 29 Dec 17 12.48am Send a Private Message to merganser Add merganser as a friend

We created plenty of goal scoring situations, but we wasted them. If our front runners had shown more focus, we could have sneaked a win. I thought everyone put in a decent shift, including the unfairly-maligned Schlupp, Tekkers and Kelly. It was a typical Palace performance with abundance of endeavour almost making up for lack of technique. Great to see Andros on the scoresheet with a well-taken goal.

 

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View Mathers's Profile Mathers Flag 29 Dec 17 1.01am Send a Private Message to Mathers Add Mathers as a friend

Player ratings;

Speroni-6- a couple of decent saves in the first half. Unfortunately age is certainly catching up on him and he simply doesn’t command his box as well as most prem goalies. Although he is our best option right now we need a proper 1st choice in jan.

Kelly-3-at fault for 1st goal with a nothing attempt to block the rebound. Offers nothing going forward and a liability in defence. Calling him a “utility player” doesn’t mask the fact he is turd. Should have been replaced much, much earlier than 80 min.

Tomkins-7- subtlety becoming our best defender. Having a decent run in the team and played well again. Strong header for his goal; if only it was 5 mins earlier we may have pushed on.

Dann-5- another night whereby he looked like he was running in treacle. Has stepped up in recent weeks after losing Sakho but tonight drifted back to the poor performances which led to him being dropped. Needs to wake up before the next game or we will be ruined.

Shlupp-6- done well and tried to push on as much as possible. Comfortably holding down the LB spot at the moment which may signal a move for PVA in Jan.

Milo-5- sloppy in possession and off the pace by his high standards. Happy to put it down as just a poor night and move on.

Cabaye-5- didn’t seem injured but replaced after 50 mins? Only player that doesn’t seem able to play 90...ever! Poor set pieces- as per usual- and generally saw the game pass him by. Can’t see why we would bother offering a new contract at the moment.

Townsend-7- always runs himself into the ground and looks to deliver into the box. Glad he bagged his 1st of the season and hope he can kick on.

Loftus-Cheek- 4- winner of dick of the day. Lazy, weak and wasteful when in decent positions. Could have been a different outcome if he had looked up instead of greedily going alone and was rightfully taken off.

Zaha-8- one of his poorer games and still comfortably our best player. Our only player who looks like creating something magical. If Van Dijk is worth £75mill in this window then Wilf is worth £100mill. Sell him in jan and we are relegated, simple!

Benteke-4- one step forward (goal and performance against Leicester) and 2 steps back with tonight. Balls bouncing off him all night and never looked a threat. Even when we managed to whip in a cross he was never in the right position. If we can find some mugs willing to pay £20 mill then we should snap their hands off.

 

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View banksy's Profile banksy Flag Norwich 29 Dec 17 2.08am Send a Private Message to banksy Add banksy as a friend

Good analysis Mathers. As I said in a post earlier this evening RLC could have won us the game if he hadn't been so selfish. Where is his superlative England performance of a few weeks ago? Where is it for us, the Eagles?

 

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View thai-eagle's Profile thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 29 Dec 17 2.32am Send a Private Message to thai-eagle Add thai-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mathers

Player ratings;

Speroni-6- a couple of decent saves in the first half. Unfortunately age is certainly catching up on him and he simply doesn’t command his box as well as most prem goalies. Although he is our best option right now we need a proper 1st choice in jan.

Kelly-3-at fault for 1st goal with a nothing attempt to block the rebound. Offers nothing going forward and a liability in defence. Calling him a “utility player” doesn’t mask the fact he is turd. Should have been replaced much, much earlier than 80 min.

Tomkins-7- subtlety becoming our best defender. Having a decent run in the team and played well again. Strong header for his goal; if only it was 5 mins earlier we may have pushed on.

Dann-5- another night whereby he looked like he was running in treacle. Has stepped up in recent weeks after losing Sakho but tonight drifted back to the poor performances which led to him being dropped. Needs to wake up before the next game or we will be ruined.

Shlupp-6- done well and tried to push on as much as possible. Comfortably holding down the LB spot at the moment which may signal a move for PVA in Jan.

Milo-5- sloppy in possession and off the pace by his high standards. Happy to put it down as just a poor night and move on.

Cabaye-5- didn’t seem injured but replaced after 50 mins? Only player that doesn’t seem able to play 90...ever! Poor set pieces- as per usual- and generally saw the game pass him by. Can’t see why we would bother offering a new contract at the moment.

Townsend-7- always runs himself into the ground and looks to deliver into the box. Glad he bagged his 1st of the season and hope he can kick on.

Loftus-Cheek- 4- winner of dick of the day. Lazy, weak and wasteful when in decent positions. Could have been a different outcome if he had looked up instead of greedily going alone and was rightfully taken off.

Zaha-8- one of his poorer games and still comfortably our best player. Our only player who looks like creating something magical. If Van Dijk is worth £75mill in this window then Wilf is worth £100mill. Sell him in jan and we are relegated, simple!

Benteke-4- one step forward (goal and performance against Leicester) and 2 steps back with tonight. Balls bouncing off him all night and never looked a threat. Even when we managed to whip in a cross he was never in the right position. If we can find some mugs willing to pay £20 mill then we should snap their hands off.


Excuse me, but how can you give Schlupp a 6? He lacks the most basic for a defender, like being around when his winger approach him. Great athlete, but unfortunately no football brain.

 

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View mogrem's Profile mogrem Flag 29 Dec 17 4.18am Send a Private Message to mogrem Add mogrem as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret

I didn't see that because I was using Sky Go which is f***ing s***e.

For all their possession, class and quality give us a decent fair referee and we get a point out of that. Infuriating.

Edited by chateauferret (28 Dec 2017 10.12pm)

Why blame the red when we had pretty much the same amount of chances?

 

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View kenbarr's Profile kenbarr Flag Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 29 Dec 17 4.22am Send a Private Message to kenbarr Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add kenbarr as a friend

Originally posted by Nobbybm

On train home so haven’t seen replays - should Sanchez have been flagged offside for their first & was the second a foul on Kelly?

It would have taken a really sharp eyed liner to see Sanchez's toes a millimeter offside on the first goal. Only with the benefit of the electronic line on a replay did I spot it.

 


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View mogrem's Profile mogrem Flag 29 Dec 17 4.23am Send a Private Message to mogrem Add mogrem as a friend

Originally posted by thai-eagle

And leave Benteke out for MacArthur....need no free passengers when Pep comes to town!

We had our best game of the season last game right without Benteke?

 

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