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Glazier#1 01 Jan 18 10.39am
Eh? Originally posted by Brentmiester_General De Bruyne a joy of the first part of the season? Don’t seem to remember him playing for Palace but there ya go.
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Glazier#1

01 Jan 18 10.39am

Eh?

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

De Bruyne a joy of the first part of the season? Don’t seem to remember him playing for Palace but there ya go.

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Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 01 Jan 18 10.41am
Originally posted by Glazier#1 Eh? I don’t get joy from watching opponents players tearing the league apart. Does nothing for me. "We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...
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Front line in the battle against t... 01 Jan 18 10.41am

Originally posted by Glazier#1

Eh?

I don’t get joy from watching opponents players tearing the league apart. Does nothing for me.

"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

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beak croydon 01 Jan 18 10.43am
Originally posted by Glazier#1 Am I to take it that you approve of what he did in the spirit of pragmatism? Or maybe you think'if it needs to be done , it needs to be done. After all, everyone's at it' Not any idea of chivalry but playing by the rules and the spirit f the rules. There can also be pragmatism at work if we want there to be. The punishments need to fit the crime and then this kind of disgrace would no longer be seen to be 'worth it'. Believe me, managers, the biggest pragmatists of all, would put a stop to it just like that. I fear I sense in your reply that you think it's ok? Surely not. Wagner will probably buy him now ,a great fit for Huddersfield.
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croydon 01 Jan 18 10.43am

Originally posted by Glazier#1

Am I to take it that you approve of what he did in the spirit of pragmatism?

Or maybe you think'if it needs to be done , it needs to be done. After all, everyone's at it'

Not any idea of chivalry but playing by the rules and the spirit f the rules. There can also be pragmatism at work if we want there to be.

The punishments need to fit the crime and then this kind of disgrace would no longer be seen to be 'worth it'. Believe me, managers, the biggest pragmatists of all, would put a stop to it just like that.

I fear I sense in your reply that you think it's ok? Surely not.

Wagner will probably buy him now ,a great fit for Huddersfield.

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shortbutt Solihull 01 Jan 18 10.48am
I agree. I am no apologist for Puncheon - it was a bad tackle, but to put it in a violent intent category is overblown. A scythe tackle is not on the same scale as sliding in with a straight leg and studs showing that we unfortunately see most weeks. I can’t help but think had it not been KdB then this would barely have warranted a mention. The fact that MoD passed over it quickly (something they rarely do given the opportunity) is in my mind a reflection that this was a bad tackle, but not exceptional. Originally posted by Goal Machine I just don’t get the violent intent part you refer to. It was terribly timed and happened at pace. Could have easily been a red but there are tackles equally bad most weeks. I think you’re going a little over the top, excuse the pun.
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Solihull 01 Jan 18 10.48am

I agree. I am no apologist for Puncheon - it was a bad tackle, but to put it in a violent intent category is overblown.

A scythe tackle is not on the same scale as sliding in with a straight leg and studs showing that we unfortunately see most weeks. I can’t help but think had it not been KdB then this would barely have warranted a mention. The fact that MoD passed over it quickly (something they rarely do given the opportunity) is in my mind a reflection that this was a bad tackle, but not exceptional.

Originally posted by Goal Machine

I just don’t get the violent intent part you refer to. It was terribly timed and happened at pace. Could have easily been a red but there are tackles equally bad most weeks. I think you’re going a little over the top, excuse the pun.

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Glazier#1 01 Jan 18 10.50am
Really? As I say: one- eyed. Thank goodness that football fans with the view you have expressed are outnumbered by true fans of the game. If you can't find joy watching the likes of De Bruyne, Wilf and Salah, you need to watch another sport my friend. Originally posted by Brentmiester_General I don’t get joy from watching opponents players tearing the league apart. Does nothing for me.
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01 Jan 18 10.50am

Really?

As I say: one- eyed.

Thank goodness that football fans with the view you have expressed are outnumbered by true fans of the game.

If you can't find joy watching the likes of De Bruyne, Wilf and Salah, you need to watch another sport my friend.

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

I don’t get joy from watching opponents players tearing the league apart. Does nothing for me.

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bicycle repair man 01 Jan 18 11.00am
Punch didn't intentionally go out to harm De Bruyne, but unfortunately with the City man being a high profile player the incident has been blown way out of proportion. Wilf has been victim to plenty of brutal tackles but he gets little protection from referees,we're really lucky he's not on the injury table more often.
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Punch didn't intentionally go out to harm De Bruyne, but unfortunately with the City man being a high profile player the incident has been blown way out of proportion.
Wilf has been victim to plenty of brutal tackles but he gets little protection from referees,we're really lucky he's not on the injury table more often.

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Glazier#1 01 Jan 18 11.01am
'Gripe' is that what we call it? I see that you are like so many that think this is all fair because 'we have it done to us' Is this post about me 'flailing myself'? no, it's about flailing at footballers who cheat, no matter who they play for. Is that beyond your comprehgension or do you think that anything goes, including injuring others in a game of football. Just because it's De Bruyne? Don't be simple. Of course the best players are assaulted week-in week-out, including our own Wilf. they get done not because of who they are but becausue of their talent on the pitch which so many others can't match so decide to kick in the air. I couldn't give a s* if Terriers fans aren't beating themselves up over the treatment of Wilf. Acording to you, they do it and it's a crime, we do it and it's excuseable because 'they're all at it'. No, not really my man. We obviously live on different footballing planets when it come to this issue. Originally posted by bexleydave** They can't talk about anything else on NSC so you can gripe away to your heart's content on there. It wasn't the greatest tackle, but we've had, and will get, the same and a lot worse done to us, so get over it. I certainly won't be wearing sackcloth and ashes and flailing myself over one poor tackle. I don't think the Huddersfield support were beating themselves up over Wilf's injury and we shouldn't be just because it was De Bruyne; so what? Edited by Glazier#1 (01 Jan 2018 11.01am) Edited by Glazier#1 (01 Jan 2018 11.02am)
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01 Jan 18 11.01am

'Gripe' is that what we call it?
I see that you are like so many that think this is all fair because 'we have it done to us'

Is this post about me 'flailing myself'?
no, it's about flailing at footballers who cheat,
no matter who they play for.
Is that beyond your comprehgension or do you think that anything goes, including injuring others in a game of football.

Just because it's De Bruyne?
Don't be simple. Of course the best players are assaulted week-in week-out, including our own Wilf.
they get done not because of who they are but becausue of their talent on the pitch which so many others can't match so decide to kick in the air.

I couldn't give a s*** if Terriers fans aren't beating themselves up over the treatment of Wilf.
Acording to you, they do it and it's a crime,
we do it and it's excuseable because 'they're all at it'.

No, not really my man.

We obviously live on different footballing planets when it come to this issue.

Originally posted by bexleydave

They can't talk about anything else on NSC so you can gripe away to your heart's content on there. It wasn't the greatest tackle, but we've had, and will get, the same and a lot worse done to us, so get over it. I certainly won't be wearing sackcloth and ashes and flailing myself over one poor tackle. I don't think the Huddersfield support were beating themselves up over Wilf's injury and we shouldn't be just because it was De Bruyne; so what?

Edited by Glazier#1 (01 Jan 2018 11.01am)

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Gary St.Andrews Kenley 01 Jan 18 11.02am
Originally posted by Glazier#1 Oh my God. It does make me chuckle how one-eyed supporters can be at times. What Puncheon visited on Kevin De Bruyne was an act of violence. A disgrace that should have seen him sent off with a straight red and, in my opinion, result in a six match ban - at least. Not only was it illegal but downright dangerous. What's more, it didn't even stop the intended pass. It did, though, achieve the desired effect of stopping play and once again, cheating won the day. I even saw, I think, one simpleton on these boards PRAISING the disgraceful Puncheon for 'taking one for the team' ugh! De Bruyne has been one of the joys of the first half of season 17-18. It is, surely, talent like his that gives us all pleasure and reminds us that, despite the cheats, this is the beautiful game. I don't care if he plays for us or not. he is a genius and the reason we all watch the game, surely. Players like him and Wilf light up the game and we must all want the geniuses to prosper for the good of the game and the cheats to be outlawed. Someone on here complains that 'all the talk was about the pen and Punch's tackle'. Not on this site, it isn't. There has been a deafening silence about what Puncheon did. Rest assured, if such an assault had been carried out on one of ours there would have been an outcry on these pages. Yesterday was different, though, wasn't it. Punch is 'one of ours' I've been a Palace fan for many, many years and suffered the joys of that. Support them as I do, I'll never have time for what i saw Puncheon do. Shame on you Jason. Edited by Glazier#1 (01 Jan 2018 10.13am) Yes it was bad, yes it was cynical, but it was never a leg breaker, unlike the Deli Ali tackle on De Bruyne a few weeks ago. Did Ali get a 6 match ban, nope, he only received a yellow...
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Originally posted by Glazier#1

Oh my God.

It does make me chuckle how one-eyed supporters can be at times.

What Puncheon visited on Kevin De Bruyne was an act of violence. A disgrace that should have seen him sent off with a straight red and, in my opinion, result in a six match ban - at least.

Not only was it illegal but downright dangerous. What's more, it didn't even stop the intended pass. It did, though, achieve the desired effect of stopping play and once again, cheating won the day.

I even saw, I think, one simpleton on these boards PRAISING the disgraceful Puncheon for 'taking one for the team' ugh!

De Bruyne has been one of the joys of the first half of season 17-18. It is, surely, talent like his that gives us all pleasure and reminds us that, despite the cheats, this is the beautiful game. I don't care if he plays for us or not. he is a genius and the reason we all watch the game, surely. Players like him and Wilf light up the game and we must all want the geniuses to prosper for the good of the game and the cheats to be outlawed.

Someone on here complains that 'all the talk was about the pen and Punch's tackle'. Not on this site, it isn't. There has been a deafening silence about what Puncheon did.

Rest assured, if such an assault had been carried out on one of ours there would have been an outcry on these pages. Yesterday was different, though, wasn't it. Punch is 'one of ours'

I've been a Palace fan for many, many years and suffered the joys of that. Support them as I do, I'll never have time for what i saw Puncheon do.

Shame on you Jason.

Edited by Glazier#1 (01 Jan 2018 10.13am)

Yes it was bad, yes it was cynical, but it was never a leg breaker, unlike the Deli Ali tackle on De Bruyne a few weeks ago. Did Ali get a 6 match ban, nope, he only received a yellow...

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Elpis In a pub 01 Jan 18 11.04am
Well this simpleton still thinks Punch took one for team . I wouldn't say he injured himself or De Bruyne on purpose though ,that really is a rather stupid thing to suggest . The tackle was granted poor and probably fuelled by the past month or so that has seen him out of the side but it was a tackle he HAD to attempt regardless . To be honest I come from a generation when players used to make such tackles without so much as a telling off from the ref ,bookings and sending offs were reserved for really bad tackles and fisticuffs . I would rather have that any day of the week than the cowardly fouls , shirt pulling , faking and simulation that I would call cheating, not an open for all to see attempt (if poor one) to make a tackle . Get well soon Punch . And we still need a striker
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In a pub 01 Jan 18 11.04am

Well this simpleton still thinks Punch took one for team . I wouldn't say he injured himself or De Bruyne on purpose though ,that really is a rather stupid thing to suggest .
The tackle was granted poor and probably fuelled by the past month or so that has seen him out of the side but it was a tackle he HAD to attempt regardless .

To be honest I come from a generation when players used to make such tackles without so much as a telling off from the ref ,bookings and sending offs were reserved for really bad tackles and fisticuffs . I would rather have that any day of the week than the cowardly fouls , shirt pulling , faking and simulation that I would call cheating, not an open for all to see attempt (if poor one) to make a tackle .

Get well soon Punch .

And we still need a striker

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boo909 Figeac 01 Jan 18 11.05am
There was no real violent intent in it, it was just an awful tackle made in a panic, by a player who's u nfortunately really off his game these days, probably deserved a red even though the ref didn't think so. And it doesn't help your case coming across as patronising and superior either, have a little respect for posters who have a differing viewpoint to your own. Edited by boo909 (01 Jan 2018 11.06am) Bangell - If Camus wrote The Myth of Sisyphus today, it would be about Jason Puncheon eternally trying and failing to pass with his right foot.
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Figeac 01 Jan 18 11.05am

There was no real violent intent in it, it was just an awful tackle made in a panic, by a player who's u nfortunately really off his game these days, probably deserved a red even though the ref didn't think so.

And it doesn't help your case coming across as patronising and superior either, have a little respect for posters who have a differing viewpoint to your own.

Edited by boo909 (01 Jan 2018 11.06am)

Bangell - If Camus wrote The Myth of Sisyphus today, it would be about Jason Puncheon eternally trying and failing to pass with his right foot.

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cpfc1976 Reading 01 Jan 18 11.05am
Originally posted by Glazier#1 Really? As I say: one- eyed. Thank goodness that football fans with the view you have expressed are outnumbered by true fans of the game. If you can't find joy watching the likes of De Bruyne, Wilf and Salah, you need to watch another sport my friend. Bit puritanical aren’t you? Who are you to tell him to stop watching Palace if he doesn’t get a buzz from watching KDB or other teams players. I enjoy watching other games, but generally the ones that affect Palace, i.e hoping a team not near the bottom smashes one of our relegation rivals. I have little interest in City, or their oil money team, they have played good football this season and so they should for the money they spend.
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Originally posted by Glazier#1

Really?

As I say: one- eyed.

Thank goodness that football fans with the view you have expressed are outnumbered by true fans of the game.

If you can't find joy watching the likes of De Bruyne, Wilf and Salah, you need to watch another sport my friend.

Bit puritanical aren’t you? Who are you to tell him to stop watching Palace if he doesn’t get a buzz from watching KDB or other teams players.

I enjoy watching other games, but generally the ones that affect Palace, i.e hoping a team not near the bottom smashes one of our relegation rivals. I have little interest in City, or their oil money team, they have played good football this season and so they should for the money they spend.

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MonsterMunch Cambridge 01 Jan 18 11.07am
Originally posted by Glazier#1 Oh my God. It does make me chuckle how one-eyed supporters can be at times. What Puncheon visited on Kevin De Bruyne was an act of violence. A disgrace that should have seen him sent off with a straight red and, in my opinion, result in a six match ban - at least. Not only was it illegal but downright dangerous. What's more, it didn't even stop the intended pass. It did, though, achieve the desired effect of stopping play and once again, cheating won the day. I even saw, I think, one simpleton on these boards PRAISING the disgraceful Puncheon for 'taking one for the team' ugh! De Bruyne has been one of the joys of the first half of season 17-18. It is, surely, talent like his that gives us all pleasure and reminds us that, despite the cheats, this is the beautiful game. I don't care if he plays for us or not. he is a genius and the reason we all watch the game, surely. Players like him and Wilf light up the game and we must all want the geniuses to prosper for the good of the game and the cheats to be outlawed. Someone on here complains that 'all the talk was about the pen and Punch's tackle'. Not on this site, it isn't. There has been a deafening silence about what Puncheon did. Rest assured, if such an assault had been carried out on one of ours there would have been an outcry on these pages. Yesterday was different, though, wasn't it. Punch is 'one of ours' I've been a Palace fan for many, many years and suffered the joys of that. Support them as I do, I'll never have time for what i saw Puncheon do. Shame on you Jason. Edited by Glazier#1 (01 Jan 2018 10.13am) Sorry I just don’t agree it was that bad. Yes he would have been better just grabbing him and/or pulling his shirt but the tackle itself was not from behind, studs up or two footed. It was a professional foul no more. If it wasn’t KDB there wouldn’t be the furore.
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Cambridge 01 Jan 18 11.07am

Originally posted by Glazier#1

Oh my God.

It does make me chuckle how one-eyed supporters can be at times.

What Puncheon visited on Kevin De Bruyne was an act of violence. A disgrace that should have seen him sent off with a straight red and, in my opinion, result in a six match ban - at least.

Not only was it illegal but downright dangerous. What's more, it didn't even stop the intended pass. It did, though, achieve the desired effect of stopping play and once again, cheating won the day.

I even saw, I think, one simpleton on these boards PRAISING the disgraceful Puncheon for 'taking one for the team' ugh!

Someone on here complains that 'all the talk was about the pen and Punch's tackle'. Not on this site, it isn't. There has been a deafening silence about what Puncheon did.

Rest assured, if such an assault had been carried out on one of ours there would have been an outcry on these pages. Yesterday was different, though, wasn't it. Punch is 'one of ours'

I've been a Palace fan for many, many years and suffered the joys of that. Support them as I do, I'll never have time for what i saw Puncheon do.

Shame on you Jason.

Edited by Glazier#1 (01 Jan 2018 10.13am)

Sorry I just don’t agree it was that bad. Yes he would have been better just grabbing him and/or pulling his shirt but the tackle itself was not from behind, studs up or two footed. It was a professional foul no more. If it wasn’t KDB there wouldn’t be the furore.

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