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View orpingtoneagle's Profile orpingtoneagle Flag Orpington 04 Jan 18 4.19pm Send a Private Message to orpingtoneagle Add orpingtoneagle as a friend

At the moment we have central bargaining all clubs together. This is not the case in every territory and in every sport. The rights are like gold dust and worth a huge amount. To suggest they would consider £3 a game massively under sells the valuable rights. You would be looking at at least double (like a daily Now TV pass) but possibly more as you would be watching your club.

Sadly streams are illegal and as security around them gets tightee it will be harder to get decent ones.

 

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View Lyons550's Profile Lyons550 Flag Shirley 04 Jan 18 4.22pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

At the moment we have central bargaining all clubs together. This is not the case in every territory and in every sport. The rights are like gold dust and worth a huge amount. To suggest they would consider £3 a game massively under sells the valuable rights. You would be looking at at least double (like a daily Now TV pass) but possibly more as you would be watching your club.

Sadly streams are illegal and as security around them gets tightee it will be harder to get decent ones.

people are already paying for higher quality streams now..£10 a month or so...I think the broadcasters would be crazy if they thought they could charge anymore than that. If they're serious about breaking the hold that illegal streaming now has on most of us then it makes sense to offer games on a sensible basis...otherwise they'd have paid ridiculous amounts for something people simply wont pay for and they'll go bust.....very quickly

 


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View madcap_v2's Profile madcap_v2 Flag SE25 / Ibiza 04 Jan 18 4.29pm Send a Private Message to madcap_v2 Add madcap_v2 as a friend

There are too many stakeholders involved in football to make this viable. You'd have to have an agreement from The FA, The Premier League, The Clubs, Sky, The internation broadcast partners etc... streaming on a per game basis would cost a lot more than £5 I reckon anyway

The reality is, a very small percentage of people who watch premier league football, stream games currently. Not everyone is as tech savvy as some users of this site.

 


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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 04 Jan 18 4.33pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Ive got BT and Sky sport but they weren't covering the Southampton game, and I couldn't get there that night.
I would have willingly paid a tenner to have watched a good visual coverage of the game. The commentators were there anyway cos I heard them on the lousy stream that was playing 4 minutes behind the game.
They should work out a way with the clubs to sell us this stuff on line.
Also if we are getting capacity at home then maybe a monkey for home games. That way you could still watch the game if you are ill or something like that.
Its all about the money, something that greedy football loves.
My view is that one day the money will be its downfall.

 

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View Lyons550's Profile Lyons550 Flag Shirley 04 Jan 18 4.46pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

I wonder how many people stream games in the UK every week?…Lets conservatively say for the top 2 leagues there are average 5,000 people streaming their clubs game every time they play (10k a game).

Then let’s make the following assumptions:

• Each round of fixtures sees 22 games (10x Prem and 12 x Championship)

• Each Season sees 84 rounds (38 x Prem and 46 x Championship)

• 22 games x 84 times a season = 1,848 games in the top two divisions to watch

• 10,000 avg viewers x 1848 games = 18.5m people willing to stream in a season

Now, if you charged each of those at the following rates, you get:

£3 a game = £55.5m
£5 a game = £92.5m
£10 a game = £185m

Now if you consider that for clubs like Man U, City, Newcastle etc the avg figures are likely to be far higher than you can start seeing the numbers stacking up.

Also, they already have the OB facilities at the games, hence the streams being available for watching illegally so there wouldn’t be any extra costs involved for the provider….simply flick a switch to allow it to be broadcast in the UK at the same time and its easy money.

 


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Originally posted by madcap_v2

There are too many stakeholders involved in football to make this viable. You'd have to have an agreement from The FA, The Premier League, The Clubs, Sky, The internation broadcast partners etc... streaming on a per game basis would cost a lot more than £5 I reckon anyway

The reality is, a very small percentage of people who watch premier league football, stream games currently. Not everyone is as tech savvy as some users of this site.

I think you'd be surprised....if that were really the case why such an effort to take them down?

 


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View Ray in Houston's Profile Ray in Houston Flag Houston 04 Jan 18 4.53pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by PZ Eagle

When I lived in the USA way back there was a successful NFL team in Los Angeles and all their matches were shown on TV but NOT within a certain radius (I forget how many miles) of the Stadium. Tickets were hard to get so a group of work colleagues
and myself used to buy a plane ticket to San Francisco and go to the nearest bar and watch the game on TV. The plane tkts were cheaper than the match tkts.

Now it may not be possible to do similar here for streams but with modern technology I don't see why not actually. If streams were legal and say £5 a match I would be happy to pay as he nearest PL ground to me is Swansea so even if I was a Swansea fan I still would not be able to go to see them as it would cost about a £100+ to do so.


NFL rules require the home team to sell out before the game can be televised in the home team's market. If your team is on the road, it can be shown in your home market regardless. This is possible due to the geographic separation of TV markets, in that what I see in Houston is different even to Dallas, let alone New York or LA. Not so in the UK, where everyone tends to get the same broadcast content, so there is no demarcation between what the home and away fans see.

There is no NFL subscription service that bypasses these local restrictions.

 


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View Lyons550's Profile Lyons550 Flag Shirley 04 Jan 18 4.59pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by Ray in Houston


NFL rules require the home team to sell out before the game can be televised in the home team's market. If your team is on the road, it can be shown in your home market regardless. This is possible due to the geographic separation of TV markets, in that what I see in Houston is different even to Dallas, let alone New York or LA. Not so in the UK, where everyone tends to get the same broadcast content, so there is no demarcation between what the home and away fans see.

There is no NFL subscription service that bypasses these local restrictions.


Ahhh, but when streaming (which is what i'm suggesting) you can set a demarcation based on ip addresses with the ISP covering that area.

 


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Brinscall Eagle Flag Brinscall Lancashire/ Villamartin ... 04 Jan 18 5.04pm

There has got to be money to be made by organising the streaming. The TV corporations have recognised this by offering games on the Now TV Passes. They know that people watch on free streams or paid for streams where higher quality transmissions are offered. The mere fact that they are offering the passes shows that they are already trying to compete with streaming.
I am sure that they will be working in the background on how they can get their greedy hands on the the paid for streaming subs.
I guess another way is for the Clubs themselves broadcasting their matches and charging members to watch them. I guess the Premier League has the rights to the broadcasts but it could be a way.
Supporters like me who live a long way from the club and only stream football matches involving Palace would much sooner pay the Club rather than a streamer or TV company and would be happy to do so to support the club.

 

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View madcap_v2's Profile madcap_v2 Flag SE25 / Ibiza 04 Jan 18 5.09pm Send a Private Message to madcap_v2 Add madcap_v2 as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550

I think you'd be surprised....if that were really the case why such an effort to take them down?

Teams like Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool etc, yes. Us, not so much.


There is a big effort to take them down, because they are illegal and people pay big, big money to have the exclusive, official rights.

 


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View Ray in Houston's Profile Ray in Houston Flag Houston 04 Jan 18 5.26pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550

Ahhh, but when streaming (which is what i'm suggesting) you can set a demarcation based on ip addresses with the ISP covering that area.


That could work. It would open up streaming to those who aren't savvy/shifty enough to mask their location and stream illegally.

 


We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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View gambler's Profile gambler Flag Kent 04 Jan 18 5.34pm Send a Private Message to gambler Add gambler as a friend

What about the lower league clubs? (Remember them?) They would probably suffer. Isn't that why 3pm's are a no go for live TV now?

 

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