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1 month ? 40 years ? Correct duration in a job ?

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 09 Jan 18 1.14pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend


civil servants will often work for the State for a lifetime. Even still, they will often be moved about from department to department. Manager to manager. Desk to desk.

If you work for Transport for London then lucky you.

And for the rest of us....
But especially for the private sector. It seems that nothing is permanent. Change is constant. And either you evolve or die. Some outfits i have worked for are constantly getting rid of the old guard to replace them with identical newcomers on smaller money.

How often do you change job ? what is the appropriate tenureship of a job ? how long to stay is too long ? how long is not enough ? For me, stay as long as you and your boss are both happy. Otherwise its over.

what are your experiences ?

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 09 Jan 18 1.37pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

You should stay as long as you are happy and your boss is happy with your performance.

Sometimes people slack off because they are bored I used to give them a challenge to motivate them. With some it worked with others they moved jobs.

Some people slack off because they are lazy and once they think they are safe the work rate goes down. Then there are the unions who believe in jobs for life as "workers give years of loyalty" argument. I don't accept that. You work in return for a salary neither employee or employer has any loyalty to each other. Of course if you want to keep your good staff you need to look after them but that goes back to my you receive a salary.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 09 Jan 18 1.42pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio


civil servants will often work for the State for a lifetime. Even still, they will often be moved about from department to department. Manager to manager. Desk to desk.

If you work for Transport for London then lucky you.

And for the rest of us....
But especially for the private sector. It seems that nothing is permanent. Change is constant. And either you evolve or die. Some outfits i have worked for are constantly getting rid of the old guard to replace them with identical newcomers on smaller money.

How often do you change job ? what is the appropriate tenureship of a job ? how long to stay is too long ? how long is not enough ? For me, stay as long as you and your boss are both happy. Otherwise its over.

what are your experiences ?

Never less than 18 months. Generally 3 years is good. 7 years if you are constantly developing. Once past that point it becomes hard to leave and puts you in a tricky situation if you then have to find a new job.

Some research I did with Harvard Business School indicates if you are highly successful in your current role never go to an equivalent or lower branded organisation. Your success gets diluted. Try to climb the ladder to the pre-eminent organisation in your field.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 09 Jan 18 1.45pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

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Never less than 18 months. Generally 3 years is good. 7 years if you are constantly developing. Once past that point it becomes hard to leave and puts you in a tricky situation if you then have to find a new job.

Some research I did with Harvard Business School indicates if you are highly successful in your current role never go to an equivalent or lower branded organisation. Your success gets diluted. Try to climb the ladder to the pre-eminent organisation in your field.

Wish I had known this. Good advice.

 


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chateauferret Flag 11 Jan 18 1.37am

I used to be in the civil service doing policy work in Westminster and that was interesting and the people were fun but the money and the career prospects were f***ing s***e. After struggling to the dizzy heights of HEO after ten years I jacked it in and went to do a master's in IT. Then did business analysis for ten years or so. Now I design databases.

Since then I've stayed in the same company about 5-7 years at a stretch, but two of them were consultancies which mean you move from client to client every so often.

 


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View topcat's Profile topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 11 Jan 18 10.40am Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

I met up with an old school mate just before Christmas. We both left school after our O Levels, he started work as an office junior and has been with the same (quite small) company for 34 years now. I have had eight or nine jobs in that time the longest being the one I'm at now which is 14 years.

 


It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.

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View rob1969's Profile rob1969 Flag Banstead Surrey 11 Jan 18 11.23am Send a Private Message to rob1969 Add rob1969 as a friend

When started work in 1960's jobs were pretty much 'two a penny.'
First 6-7 years changed jobs 3 or 4 times then got wed. Got new job and stayed 17 years (mortgage, kids etc.). Made redundant at 45. Took 10 months to land another suitable job and was there 7 years then they relocated to Manchester - took redundancy. Another -not so good firm - for 4 years -guess what - redundant again @ 58. Another several months unemployment then got a part time civil service job to see me through to 65.
Retirement. Reduced income but no fear of it being cut off. Most secure position I've had - 'job' for life!


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View CJr94's Profile CJr94 Flag Holmesdale Road 11 Jan 18 12.09pm Send a Private Message to CJr94 Add CJr94 as a friend

Only 23.. been at my company 4 years. In my opinion, it's when progression stops / you hit a ceiling and there's no viable way to move onward. That's the situation i find myself in currently. Assurances I'll get 'x' job when it becomes available, but when will it?

Had a finance director at our company. When you see his linked in he moves every 2-4 years.. board level positions. He comes in, improves stuff slightly then reviews himself on LinkedIn claiming he changes the world wherever he goes.. always thought he was a useless cock.. quite a successful one admittedly.

 

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 11 Jan 18 12.20pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

If you have a final salary pension, don't go anywhere!

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 11 Jan 18 9.55pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by rob1969

When started work in 1960's jobs were pretty much 'two a penny.'

well since then the 2018 Labour market has got mean & nasty. And house prices are eye-watering. What was the downside to economic life in the 1960's ?

 


Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 11 Jan 18 10.09pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by chris123

If you have a final salary pension, don't go anywhere!

Excellent point

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 11 Jan 18 10.36pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Saw the title cut off and thought it might be 1 month or 40 years for a red card on HOL, lol.

(It's a joke. Not a serious dig)

 


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