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What is a Sporting Director anyway?

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View Palacesince64's Profile Palacesince64 Flag Edinburgh 01 Feb 18 9.31am Send a Private Message to Palacesince64 Add Palacesince64 as a friend

So we have this continental system where the Chairman runs the business side, the Sporting Director sorts out the football structure and the Head Coach makes sure the first team squad does the business in the pitch. It’s supposed to be better than the old system If manager/Scout/chairman. So in terms of transfers Is the Sporting Director simply a scout and it’s SP’s job to do the due dulligence and the deal or is DF the guy who should make sure the ducks are all in a row before bringing in SP with the cash? Who should have been aware that Lille had a problem with replacing Amadou?

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 01 Feb 18 9.59am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Palacesince64

Who should have been aware that Lille had a problem with replacing Amadou?

All three should have been aware but the real question is "who's job was it to find out if there might be problems with the transfer" and the answer presumably was Freedman

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 01 Feb 18 10.18am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Palacesince64

So we have this continental system where the Chairman runs the business side, the Sporting Director sorts out the football structure and the Head Coach makes sure the first team squad does the business in the pitch. It’s supposed to be better than the old system If manager/Scout/chairman. So in terms of transfers Is the Sporting Director simply a scout and it’s SP’s job to do the due dulligence and the deal or is DF the guy who should make sure the ducks are all in a row before bringing in SP with the cash? Who should have been aware that Lille had a problem with replacing Amadou?

Why assume that the fault for knowing what was going on lies at our door. Ever thought that Lille have been totally to blame for our failure to sign Amadou, ever thought that financial fair play rules have stopped us from buying a player now hence the loan now/summer purchase. With regard to club structure, fancy names like Sporting Director do not really change how a club is run, DF may have taken on some responsibilities that a manager or head scout may have previously done, but it doesn't matter whose job it is within our club if events conspire to prevent deals from happening in the first place.

I am from a commercial property background (Chartered Surveyor) and for years the industry went along quite happily until all of a sudden Facilities Managers appeared out of nowhere. No-one had heard of them before and their roles were previously filled by staff within an estates department. Now, you have facilities manager qualifications and it would appear that the industry feels a large building cannot function without one, which is complete tosh, it is just a job name that collectively describes a number of functions. A small example of change for changes sake (and normally a pay rise). I am sure that someone was doing the job of DF before he came along, he just didn't have a fancy title.

As to your specific question as to exactly whose role is which, that is impossible for anyone on this board to know without being part of the machinations of the club.

 

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View Petereagle's Profile Petereagle Flag Brockley 01 Feb 18 10.19am Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

All three should have been aware but the real question is "who's job was it to find out if there might be problems with the transfer" and the answer presumably was Freedman

My impression based on the usual mixture of rumours is that the Lille owners pulled the plug on the deal on the Tuesday of this week. Amadou himself wanted to come to the PL so got on a train and tried to force a deal though. He chose Palace rather than West Ham. Maybe Lille at the last minute changed their minds and tried to get a replacement player in but couldn’t. This is my take on these unfortunate events anyway.

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 01 Feb 18 10.42am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Someone who gets paid money for old rope?

There was a great ‘graphic’ on the BBC football website/app today showing transfer fee inflation ie the fee just paid for a player versus the fee last time he was transferred. For example Tosun last time was ‘Free’, this time was £27million.

Ergo maybe the rise of the Sporting Director/Director of Football is linked to the rise and rise of the transfer fee. I wonder what Cloughie would make of it all, assuming ‘The Damned United’ has a ring of truth about it - no agents, no Sporting Directors, just a manager deciding what’s best for his team and going for it by knocking on the player’s door and saying “how about it, son?”

Edited by YT (01 Feb 2018 11.40am)

 


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View tonypeers5's Profile tonypeers5 Flag Wallington 01 Feb 18 11.14am Send a Private Message to tonypeers5 Add tonypeers5 as a friend

It’s very different now than it was in the old days to be a manager. Scouting networks are now across the world and not just domestically and Western Europe. The manager needs to concentrate on the first team as there is so much pressure for them to perform.
The idea of having a sporting director is to identify potential targets and liaise with the scouting network. The manager will obviously say where we need strengthening but can then concentrate his time on the first team.

 


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