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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Feb 18 9.58am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

The dignified way that the erudite luminary JRM dealt with the situation says everything about him.
The behaviour of the masked hoodlums intent on disrupting the proceedings says everything about them.And JRM has been accused here of being an "Attention seeker" !


 

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View Harry Beever's Profile Harry Beever Flag Newbury 03 Feb 18 10.07am Send a Private Message to Harry Beever Add Harry Beever as a friend

Originally posted by Oliver

Video you won't see in the right wing media.

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It would appear that Mogg was talking to a protester who was then attacked from behind by the guy in the white shirt.

Attacked?! Well that was a bit of an anti climax

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Online Flag SW2 03 Feb 18 10.09am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

The dignified way that the erudite luminary JRM dealt with the situation says everything about him.
The behaviour of the masked hoodlums intent on disrupting the proceedings says everything about them.And JRM has been accused here of being an "Attention seeker" !


Don’t make me boot you up that Jacksie again. Now get out of here you young ruffian.

Edited by DanH (03 Feb 2018 10.09am)

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Feb 18 10.19am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Don’t make me boot you up that Jacksie again. Now get out of here you young ruffian.

Edited by DanH (03 Feb 2018 10.09am)

At least the estimable JRM didn't use these words when confronted by hoodlums hell-bent on disrupting the event !

 

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View Harry Beever's Profile Harry Beever Flag Newbury 03 Feb 18 10.22am Send a Private Message to Harry Beever Add Harry Beever as a friend

There’s a difference between free speech and freedom to shout insults so loudly that no one can hear each other speak or engage in any form of debate. They’re stifling any form of debate. They should have been told to shut up, sit down, listen and ask questions at the end. If they didn’t choose to, security should have removed them though no doubt they would have claimed this would be “anti-free speech” rather than anti-meaningless shouting and released some form of edited video which would probably go viral and encourage other idiots to shout. Corbyn should come out and condemn this sort of anti-social behaviour, but he won’t.

 

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View Jamesey's Profile Jamesey Flag Wandsworth 03 Feb 18 10.30am Send a Private Message to Jamesey Add Jamesey as a friend

Originally posted by Harry Beever

There’s a difference between free speech and freedom to shout insults so loudly that no one can hear each other speak or engage in any form of debate. They’re stifling any form of debate. They should have been told to shut up, sit down, listen and ask questions at the end. If they didn’t choose to, security should have removed them though no doubt they would have claimed this would be “anti-free speech” rather than anti-meaningless shouting and released some form of edited video which would probably go viral and encourage other idiots to shout. Corbyn should come out and condemn this sort of anti-social behaviour, but he won’t.

Extremely well put, Sir.

 


Nothing is fool-proof - fools are too ingenious

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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Matataland 03 Feb 18 11.04am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by serial thriller

See I personally wouldn't go about it in the way they did, but...

Do you actually believe that they pose a serious threat to free speech to a man who writes regularly in the Telegraph, appears almost weekly on BBC politics discussion forums, and as we speak is given a free airing by numerous radio and television shows to give his side of the story to hundreds of thousands of listeners?

I value free speech, but to my mind we should be fighting to protect it for imported labourers working on contracts which prohibit them speaking out about their conditions, or women forced in to sex work who can't go to the police. Worrying that a hereditary Tory MP who lives in a castle doesn't have sufficient space to air his views is South Park level of farcical.

So your approach to free speech is that people whom you support can speak freely but Tories cannot?

Smacks of fascism.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Matataland 03 Feb 18 11.06am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Come on Matthew, you’re better than this.


Edited by DanH (03 Feb 2018 9.39am)

How would you describe Mr ‘You’re not worth debatin’?

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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View DanH's Profile DanH Online Flag SW2 03 Feb 18 11.32am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by matt_himself

How would you describe Mr ‘You’re not worth debatin’?

A veritable bellend.

 

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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Matataland 03 Feb 18 11.36am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

A veritable bellend.

I would say a misguided SJW.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 03 Feb 18 11.44am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

The dignified way that the erudite luminary JRM dealt with the situation says everything about him.
The behaviour of the masked hoodlums intent on disrupting the proceedings says everything about them.And JRM has been accused here of being an "Attention seeker" !


This, JRM comes out of this really well. I despair that protestors from either political wing have failed to learn the lessons of Ghandi and Dr King. The most powerful images and arguments I have ever seen are quiet respectable black people sitting at the food counter being dragged from their seats by police with barking dogs. Those images did more to convince white people of the injustice of the Jim Crow laws than some in your face snarling protestor will ever do. King and Ghandi understood to win your argument you make the other guy over react.

 


One more point

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 03 Feb 18 11.52am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Noisy lefty/identity politics idiots displaying what they are best at. Embarrassing themselves. Some not even brave enough to show their faces.
All victim mentality and no brains.

 

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