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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 07 Feb 18 3.37pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

That is a point I made a while ago.
If dopey edd hadn't gone for it and backed his Bruv instead labour would be in power still.
David has a certain charm, charisma and knowledge.
I wish he would change sides, come back and become a Tory. Landslide victory not in question.
Silly labour for their voting rules as I think David got more firsts but more thirds as well, meaning soapy won it.
Total cock up but I'm pleased to be honest.
Observation only not a labour love in

Lots of New Labour Mps could qualify as Tory 'wets' Especially nowadays as the wets have held the reins of the leadership of the Tory party since Thatcher resigned.

The grass roots are less wet.....well, if you exclude the blue rinsers anyway.

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 07 Feb 18 7.48pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

i would guess the Sinn Fein rank and file are horrified with Adams. They probably disapprove of Corbyn because they do not like Diane Abbott.

Corbyn likes Diane.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 07 Feb 18 8.31pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Corbyn claims that his links with Sinn Fein / IRA back in the 1980's was about building bridges and that he helped with the peace process. However if this was true then why was he ignored by Tory, Labour and also Sinn Fein when the peace discussions started. I would have thought that a British politician trusted by both sides would have been invaluable. I believe it was actually Mo Mowlem who played that role.

I feel that Corbyn was just mischief making and Sinn Fein were happy to go along with it whilst there was no prospect for peace. Once the discussions started they ignored him as he was no longer useful.

In a similar way Gerry Adams is also now playing that game.

 


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View topcat's Profile topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 08 Feb 18 10.41am Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Corbyn claims that his links with Sinn Fein / IRA back in the 1980's was about building bridges and that he helped with the peace process. However if this was true then why was he ignored by Tory, Labour and also Sinn Fein when the peace discussions started. I would have thought that a British politician trusted by both sides would have been invaluable. I believe it was actually Mo Mowlem who played that role.

I feel that Corbyn was just mischief making and Sinn Fein were happy to go along with it whilst there was no prospect for peace. Once the discussions started they ignored him as he was no longer useful.

In a similar way Gerry Adams is also now playing that game.

Probably because as Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, that was Mo Mowlam's job. One that she did very well.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 08 Feb 18 11.16am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by topcat

Probably because as Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, that was Mo Mowlam's job. One that she did very well.

You have kind of ignored his points. Others weren't ignored like John Hume.

 


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View Happiness Stan's Profile Happiness Stan Flag Itchycoo Park 08 Feb 18 11.34am Send a Private Message to Happiness Stan Add Happiness Stan as a friend

Lol, well if Gerry Adams says he'll be good for Britain, who are we to argue? Maybe we should canvass the opinion of the ISIS leadership too, maybe then fly in some Columbian FARC rebels to troubleshoot our current political situation...

 


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Im only in my 30s so I missed a lot of the history, but wasnt getting the IRA to stop bombing and bringing about peace in Northern Ireland a good thing?

As the stepson of someone in the military, I was brought up in the days of having to check your vehicles for bombs so I consider not having to worry about the IRA a good thing and am very grateful to anyone who helped make that happen. Sounds like people of Northern Ireland agree to me...

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 08 Feb 18 12.24pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Beanyboysmd

Im only in my 30s so I missed a lot of the history, but wasnt getting the IRA to stop bombing and bringing about peace in Northern Ireland a good thing?

As the stepson of someone in the military, I was brought up in the days of having to check your vehicles for bombs so I consider not having to worry about the IRA a good thing and am very grateful to anyone who helped make that happen. Sounds like people of Northern Ireland agree to me...


Coming to terms with the main enemy is a mixed bag. You aren't partly ruled over by murderers are you. Would you have been ok with Hitler taking half the government to end WW2? Many people aren't happy about it.

The violence hasn't stopped you know. Didn't you listen to the security chief on NI? Just because you think you don't have to worry about it now doesn't mean that it has gone away.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Feb 2018 12.25pm)

 


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Originally posted by Beanyboysmd

Im only in my 30s so I missed a lot of the history, but wasnt getting the IRA to stop bombing and bringing about peace in Northern Ireland a good thing?

As the stepson of someone in the military, I was brought up in the days of having to check your vehicles for bombs so I consider not having to worry about the IRA a good thing and am very grateful to anyone who helped make that happen. Sounds like people of Northern Ireland agree to me...

I have no problem with a peace deal I just feel that Corbyn was irrelevant to that process however earnest his views. My real issue with the deal was the one sided pardons for the terrorists. I guess that letting them out was inevitable but Blair should have insisted on the same for the security forces.

We should have had a truth and reconciliation commission. If someone, terrorist or soldier told the truth about who they killed they would be absolved. It is stupid that the authorities are still going after troops and the occasional terrorist. We have to draw a line however painful it is for the victims.

 


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View Beanyboysmd's Profile Beanyboysmd Flag 08 Feb 18 4.12pm Send a Private Message to Beanyboysmd Add Beanyboysmd as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Coming to terms with the main enemy is a mixed bag. You aren't partly ruled over by murderers are you. Would you have been ok with Hitler taking half the government to end WW2? Many people aren't happy about it.

The violence hasn't stopped you know. Didn't you listen to the security chief on NI? Just because you think you don't have to worry about it now doesn't mean that it has gone away.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Feb 2018 12.25pm)

I am British, I am 100 percent ruled over by murderers...
I am not going to complain about a volatile peace, its still better than being activly bombed, I am grateful to anybody who made that happen...
But as the lad above me said, Corbyn probably wasnt that involved in the process...

So, either Corbyn brought some stability out of what was borderline civil war, or he had little involvement in Northern Ireland, making the 'friend of terrorist' thing a lazy insult.

Either way Corbyn is no enemy of mine...

 

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Originally posted by Beanyboysmd

I am British, I am 100 percent ruled over by murderers...
I am not going to complain about a volatile peace, its still better than being activly bombed, I am grateful to anybody who made that happen...
But as the lad above me said, Corbyn probably wasnt that involved in the process...

So, either Corbyn brought some stability out of what was borderline civil war, or he had little involvement in Northern Ireland, making the 'friend of terrorist' thing a lazy insult.

Either way Corbyn is no enemy of mine...

You are your own type of British.

Your logic on Corbyn doesn't make sense. He very publicly got involved. I remember it being reported on and he made public statements that are easy to find.

The fact that he wasn't involved in the peace process is that the British wouldn't countenance the traitorous idiot.

The fact that you regard these matters as unimportant says it all.

 


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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 08 Feb 18 6.33pm

It's all moot.

Time to give Ulster to the Irish so that we can Brexit.

 


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