Britain’s make up ruined by immigration
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 Stirlingsays  11 Feb 18 12.42am |
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Apparently only ten percent of Europeans today have any DNA connections from this period. From what we know so far all humans came from Africa anyway where white skin isn't necessary for vitamin D production. I must admit....the more the culture around me celebrates non British culture and pushes 'white guilt' the more attractive I can see identitarianism becoming....not that I think of it as the better way forward as I much prefer meritocracy as the over-riding metric for socieities. The emergence of racial groups voting as a block has always been purely non white in nature before but now with the increasing effect of immigration this is changing....this is seen with demographic breakdown on Trump's votes. This is very unfortunate but I'm seeing separatism emerging and identitarianism becoming a force. I'm just not seeing polarisation reducing.....I think this is probably natural given the historical nature and differing cultural backgrounds of the groups in these countries. If things continue on this path I can see separatism succeeding and white and black ethno states becoming a reality....along with the mixed type we have now. We already see ethno states now in Israel and with countries like Poland heading that way. Africa and the middle east contain de facto ethno states. It will probably emerge in America as well, with secession increasing in popularity amongst republican states...and interestingly California. It's not progress in the way I'd prefer but I think it's the way it's going to go.....I think it will be a reality within fifty years.
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Park Road  11 Feb 18 7.14am |
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If the first humans had dark skin, does this mean becoming lighter skin is just part of evolution. As stated before who cares? Edited by Park Road (11 Feb 2018 7.17am)
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 Hrolf The Ganger 11 Feb 18 10.31am |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
My a*se. You are simply totally fixated by immigration and colour. And that is why you rose to the bait on this thread. You were wrong about the number of people coming through the UK from Ireland during the great famine. In the end I stopped posting as you had such a strong agenda. It is believed that people became progressively more white, in patches and groups, about 8,000 years ago. The Cheddar Man was from 10,000 years ago. But you carry on arguing black is white, as you are wont to do. NO. You were wrong and I proved it with actual data. Wrong is your default state.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 11 Feb 18 10.35am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Apparently only ten percent of Europeans today have any DNA connections from this period. From what we know so far all humans came from Africa anyway where white skin isn't necessary for vitamin D production. I must admit....the more the culture around me celebrates non British culture and pushes 'white guilt' the more attractive I can see identitarianism becoming....not that I think of it as the better way forward as I much prefer meritocracy as the over-riding metric for socieities. The emergence of racial groups voting as a block has always been purely non white in nature before but now with the increasing effect of immigration this is changing....this is seen with demographic breakdown on Trump's votes. This is very unfortunate but I'm seeing separatism emerging and identitarianism becoming a force. I'm just not seeing polarisation reducing.....I think this is probably natural given the historical nature and differing cultural backgrounds of the groups in these countries. If things continue on this path I can see separatism succeeding and white and black ethno states becoming a reality....along with the mixed type we have now. We already see ethno states now in Israel and with countries like Poland heading that way. It will probably emerge in America as well, with secession increasing in popularity amongst republican states...and interestingly California. It's not progress in the way I'd prefer but I think it's the way it's going to go.....I think it will be a reality within fifty years.
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| Stirlingsays 11 Feb 18 11.46am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I think over populations this is an inherent truth. A minority of people will integrate to an extent but any serious observer of demographic trends within societies would understand this point. People of different cultures will come together over economic pressures and for good will but given a choice over the long term.....and that's a very important fact...if given a choice....people will revert to their own cultural bubbles. We are being ruled over by social constructionists who are completely flying against the scientific data because it offends their political biases. Also it's a truth that the activist left have an automatic bias to push immigration as first and second generations immigrants are always likely to vote for the left....as they are pro immigration....even if the immigrants are highly socially conservative themselves. Lots of Labour's voting base isn't pro-immigration on anything like its political leadership's terms.....but as just like the Tories....the leadership don't really care what the grass roots think on this issue. Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Feb 2018 11.49am)
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| matt_himself Matataland 11 Feb 18 12.14pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I think over populations this is an inherent truth. A minority of people will integrate to an extent but any serious observer of demographic trends within societies would understand this point. People of different cultures will come together over economic pressures and for good will but given a choice over the long term.....and that's a very important fact...if given a choice....people will revert to their own cultural bubbles. We are being ruled over by social constructionists who are completely flying against the scientific data because it offends their political biases. Also it's a truth that the activist left have an automatic bias to push immigration as first and second generations immigrants are always likely to vote for the left....as they are pro immigration....even if the immigrants are highly socially conservative themselves. Lots of Labour's voting base isn't pro-immigration on anything like its political leadership's terms.....but as just like the Tories....the leadership don't really care what the grass roots think on this issue. Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Feb 2018 11.49am) I disagree with you. People in south London are more integrated than in Cambridgeshire. I am married to an African woman and don’t feel a jot of hostility from either the local African community or our local, and predominantly white, community. I can walk into my local with my missus and no one bats an eyelid. None of my friends care. None of my family do. In my mind too much is made of race.
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| Stirlingsays 11 Feb 18 12.20pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
I disagree with you. People in south London are more integrated than in Cambridgeshire. I am married to an African woman and don’t feel a jot of hostility from either the local African community or our local, and predominantly white, community. I can walk into my local with my missus and no one bats an eyelid. None of my friends care. None of my family do. In my mind too much is made of race. You should read the post more carefully. The science doesn't lie. First hand experience isn't irrelevant but it doesn't compete on the same terms. Besides, race isn't really the deciding factor it's culture. People with similar cultural attitudes can most definitely bond. I grew up in Brixton South London.....it wasn't integrated when I was there....but what has happened in London just confirms what I've said anyway. Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Feb 2018 12.24pm)
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| matt_himself Matataland 11 Feb 18 12.30pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You should read the post more carefully. The science doesn't lie. First hand experience isn't irrelevant but it doesn't compete on the same terms. Besides, race isn't really the deciding factor it's culture. People with similar cultural attitudes can most definitely bond. I grew up in Brixton South London.....it wasn't integrated when I was there....but what has happened in London just confirms what I've said anyway. Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Feb 2018 12.24pm) No Stirling. I used to be sympathetic to you but in recent times I have come to the conclusion that you hold some views I really don’t agree with. If you go down the line of ‘science’, I am sure it is only a matter of time that you uphold phrenology. On your own, son.
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| Stirlingsays 11 Feb 18 1.44pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
No Stirling. I used to be sympathetic to you but in recent times I have come to the conclusion that you hold some views I really don’t agree with. If you go down the line of ‘science’, I am sure it is only a matter of time that you uphold phrenology. On your own, son. We are all on our own son. You didn't actually address the points and instead just talk emotionally. You replied to my post, not the other way around. If you go down the line of science you have the data and the conclusions it leads to....if you disagree with demographic results, discuss. I'd prefer to actually talk about points instead of childish value judgements that as an adult I don't really care about. My views are always made plain on here.....hell I've been on the site long enough.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 11 Feb 18 2.17pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
I disagree with you. People in south London are more integrated than in Cambridgeshire. I am married to an African woman and don’t feel a jot of hostility from either the local African community or our local, and predominantly white, community. I can walk into my local with my missus and no one bats an eyelid. None of my friends care. None of my family do. In my mind too much is made of race. I totally agree. That is the way with identity politics and it is usually the minorities that make a big thing of their identity.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Feb 18 2.24pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
I disagree with you. People in south London are more integrated than in Cambridgeshire. I am married to an African woman and don’t feel a jot of hostility from either the local African community or our local, and predominantly white, community. I can walk into my local with my missus and no one bats an eyelid. None of my friends care. None of my family do. In my mind too much is made of race. Where in South London do you live? It may not matter. It's mixed really. Junior school children in most areas areas will mix no problem, and no doubt that progresses more and more. But how much do white and black teenagers in some inner city areas mix? I'm talking about outside of school. They mix further out in the suburbs but is there still groups of only black boys closer into cities? White and black integration is possibly the best measure because there aren't religious obstacles in what is and isn't acceptable.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Feb 18 2.34pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I totally agree. That is the way with identity politics and it is usually the minorities that make a big thing of their identity. The black guy on that BBC1 debate show this morning who runs an organisation that encourages young black people to brush aside the thought that racism is and will hold them back agrees also. To his left were those in agreement and to his right were those enhancing or relying on it for their careers. Afua Hirsch again. Instead of promoting the positive and encouraging the failing, they want to go over and over the negatives of the past, not really helping the people of the present. He said if they brush off these psychological barriers they do succeed, as he says more black females are, especially and interestingly he said are West African immigrants because of that valuable positive immigrant attitude and parental encouragement. Sure it's out there but if you let it affect you it will be more negative. Easier said than done maybe but what else do you do? Go over and over it instead of getting on with things?
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