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Blimey Chateau
You’ve confused me even more now I think, that’s the thing with it, I’m not sure I’m confused either.
I’ll have another read through your post this evening when I get home and hopefully I can make it tie in to my tma somehow.
Really appreciate the time and effort you’re spending replying mate, thank you.

 

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Originally posted by chateauferret

There's a lot of that about.

Ibsen's Peer Gynt is Voltaire's Candide.
Priestley's An Inspector Calls is Gogol's Revisor.
Various authors retell the story of Don Juan.
White's The Once and Future King is Mallory's La Morte d'Arthur.

Which is not to say that an author is just paraphrasing or plagiarising a source. Goethe for instance embeds the tale into the Weimar romanticism and into the contemporary world view and weaves in some suitable moral plot around Gretchen and the murder and Faust's pleading with God; in the earlier versions the morality is much more cut and dried, you treat with the Devil, you go to Hell. The Priestley / Gogol example (and I don't know that it's a conscious copy) is an exactly similar plot, down to the detail of everyone being thunderstruck when the arrival of a "real" inspector is announced, but exposes the attitudes of the English middle-class rather than satirising those of small-town Russia.

It's not the same as allusion though, where the author is taking various ideas, themes, motifs, characters, literary techniques and plot elements and weaving them into his work together with a bunch of stuff of his own (or retold from earlier works). In the context of the exam. question, for instance, it would be important to separate the elements that allude to Classical elements from the elements that derive from plot retelling; the Faust story goes back to German stories ostensibly based on a real person, Johann Georg Faust (c. 1480 - 1540) but more probably derived from a number of different persons and legends and composited by Marlowe or others; as may be the case with Merlin, likewise a composite character integrated by Geoffrey of Monmouth in the thirteenth century. See
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Edited by chateauferret (14 Feb 2018 10.27pm)

and don't forget 'Terror in the Sky' starring Doug McLure is the original from which 'Airplane' starring Leslie Nielson was taken. Nice course but has the OP considered Level 3 Carpentry as an alternative, more work in wood than classical allusions from my experience.

 

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chateauferret Flag 15 Feb 18 1.12pm

Originally posted by peterboroeagle

Blimey Chateau
You’ve confused me even more now I think, that’s the thing with it, I’m not sure I’m confused either.
I’ll have another read through your post this evening when I get home and hopefully I can make it tie in to my tma somehow.
Really appreciate the time and effort you’re spending replying mate, thank you.

It strikes me that you've only got 500 words so you can't actually say that much. I don't really know what they're expecting but you couldn't make more than half a dozen points in that space. Probably just pick some examples and show how they make the work more effective? The classical allusion does seem to be part of the whole Faust legend maybe worth pointing that out briefly.

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Feb 18 3.59pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

I would have thought the whole play to be a Greek tragedy with Faustus succumbing to his 'tragic flaw'.
The play contains Classic allusions throughout. The opening claims that this play will be unlike classic plays (which, I believe, were considered boring at this time and were unpopular). Yet, paradoxically the play constantly alludes to classical texts.
Faustus even gets to see Helen of Troy ( does he sleep with her?). She is one of the most important elements of this classical allusion as she basically serves as a device linking the physical and scientific character of Faustus with the stuff of myth and legend.
Obviously the audience were familiar with Greek classical tales otherwise the allusions would not have been effective.
Be careful which version of the play you use. There were many changes due to religious statutes.
Hope this is of any help.

 


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