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View johnfirewall's Profile johnfirewall Flag 19 Feb 18 5.01pm Send a Private Message to johnfirewall Add johnfirewall as a friend

I've heard about it, purely in the context of opposition to 'stop and search'...

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 19 Feb 18 6.15pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

if you live far from London you may find these statistics shocking.


But if you are regularly walking the suburbs from Zone 3 to Zone 6 you will be surprised there were only thirteen stabbings so far.

 


Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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View BarEagle's Profile BarEagle Flag Monmouth 19 Feb 18 7.45pm Send a Private Message to BarEagle Add BarEagle as a friend

Quite.

The atmosphere is poor. That said I have just been threatened for being rude by a Coventry fan.... on a train into London.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 19 Feb 18 8.27pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

Well 5 of them were on New Year's day, so the stats had a bad head start.

Maybe the media and social media should focus less on saying how unfair stop and search is and more on why it is targeted to certain groups. Take those 13 deaths you mention, I wonder how many are of them are from the group who feel they are overtly targeted for stop and search?

I think most of these are related to gangs and most gangs in London are black boys.
Sorry if that is wrong but if not then that is why stop and search is targeted.
Surely it protects everyone.
And yes I'm white and it would be really f*****d up to keep getting stopped. But the story after every stabbing is why don't more stop and searches happen.
It seems a lose lose for the plod sadly.

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 19 Feb 18 11.05pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

Well 5 of them were on New Year's day, so the stats had a bad head start.

Maybe the media and social media should focus less on saying how unfair stop and search is and more on why it is targeted to certain groups. Take those 13 deaths you mention, I wonder how many are of them are from the group who feel they are overtly targeted for stop and search?

Exactly Stuk. It's the same premise as airport security who feel it necessary to stop grey haired old ladies in their 60s to take off their shoes but **cough** let other more obvious suspects waltz through unhindered for fear of offending.

 


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View Penge Eagle's Profile Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 20 Feb 18 4.10am Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

Sadiq Khan's London where crime is up in virtually every category. 1,000 police officers cut by Westminster but he wants to spend £6m on toilets for bus drivers!

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 20 Feb 18 7.20am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk


Maybe the media and social media should focus less on saying how unfair stop and search is and more on why it is targeted to certain groups. Take those 13 deaths you mention, I wonder how many are of them are from the group who feel they are overtly targeted for stop and search?

So delicately put

Katie Hopkins was roundly decried a few months ago for saying that "if black lives matter so much why do they keep stabbing and killing each other"

I'm no fan of Katie Hopkins but I did agree with that statement

 

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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 20 Feb 18 1.26pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Exactly Stuk. It's the same premise as airport security who feel it necessary to stop grey haired old ladies in their 60s to take off their shoes but **cough** let other more obvious suspects waltz through unhindered for fear of offending.

I flew to the US a few years back with my brother in law, who is of African descent, and the amount of times he got picked (and I didn't) for a "random" check on both sides of the journey became a huge source of amusement.

 


Optimistic as ever

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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 20 Feb 18 1.30pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

So delicately put

Katie Hopkins was roundly decried a few months ago for saying that "if black lives matter so much why do they keep stabbing and killing each other"

I'm no fan of Katie Hopkins but I did agree with that statement

I forget who it was now, but one of the grime artists put something similar on Twitter about there needing to be more stop and search of young black men after that black male model got killed, and he got crucified.

 


Optimistic as ever

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View Matov's Profile Matov Online Flag 20 Feb 18 1.45pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

What I think needs to be understood is that knife crime is not unique to London and that a model already exists for how to tackle it. Glasgow used to have a terrible reputation for knife crime but by treating the problem as one of a public health crisis, rather than just purely criminal, it dramatically reduced it.

But white working class boys stabbing each other to death for the most puerile of reasons does not carry with it the same political machinations as black boys.

And that is the nub of this. The Left want to brush it under the carpet and the Right leave well alone because its not worth the grief that gets heaped upon them and its not their side of electorate dying on streets in s***ty parts of London.

These black boys are being allowed to carry on stabbing each other to death because nobody with any power to stop it actually wants to muddy their hands. No promotion ladders beckoning, only potential snakes to slide down.

But its a sick game, what ever way you look upon it.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Feb 18 2.56pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

What I think needs to be understood is that knife crime is not unique to London and that a model already exists for how to tackle it. Glasgow used to have a terrible reputation for knife crime but by treating the problem as one of a public health crisis, rather than just purely criminal, it dramatically reduced it.

But white working class boys stabbing each other to death for the most puerile of reasons does not carry with it the same political machinations as black boys.

And that is the nub of this. The Left want to brush it under the carpet and the Right leave well alone because its not worth the grief that gets heaped upon them and its not their side of electorate dying on streets in s***ty parts of London.

These black boys are being allowed to carry on stabbing each other to death because nobody with any power to stop it actually wants to muddy their hands. No promotion ladders beckoning, only potential snakes to slide down.

But its a sick game, what ever way you look upon it.

Sums it up.

Of course, allowing cultures known for gang violence and gun and knife crime to settle here might have been a mistake.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 20 Feb 18 3.21pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Probably some more with the KFC chicken shortage.

 


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