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View rollercoaster's Profile rollercoaster Flag Cornwall 27 Feb 18 6.17am Send a Private Message to rollercoaster Add rollercoaster as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

If or when we are relegated, it will be his fault and his alone, he has allowed us to enter this current campaign with only one fit striker and with a manager that was on another planet, then he failed to deliver the six players Roy wanted in the last transfer window, last weekend showed how feeble we are, so much so that poor Roy had to put DD on for the last few minutes after Tomkins was taken off because he had no other option, even though he knows DD is too slow and well past his retirement date! Come on Steve man up and admit you are not up to your role as you see it!

His fault alone - yer right, nothing to do with the players, supporters, managers, luck even the other 19 clubs in the league. It's all down to SP. And if we stay up? Even have a better season next year. Will that be solely down to SP too?

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 27 Feb 18 6.41am Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by Norway

Listen - without Steve Parish Palace would have been somewhere in the championship or league 1 - he has saved the club and deserves every backing

History cannot be changed, it's in past, the future is what matters now and right now or very soon, SP will almost certainly be responsible for our likely relegation and the biggest loss in revenue in the clubs history, how is that saving the club?

 

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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 27 Feb 18 7.28am

Originally posted by Den1923

History cannot be changed, it's in past, the future is what matters now and right now or very soon, SP will almost certainly be responsible for our likely relegation and the biggest loss in revenue in the clubs history, how is that saving the club?

He’s already saved the club. Anyone disagreeing with that is struggling to grasp reality. He’s given us another 8 years(and counting of our football club), approaching 6 in the PL. If we crumble tomorrow then he will still be responsible for saving the club and giving no us that stay of execution. Respect where it is due pal.

Edited by Brentmiester_General (27 Feb 2018 9.50am)

 


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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 27 Feb 18 7.51am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Undoubtedly other parties would have stepped in if SP consortium had not.
SP, however, did a brilliant job ( not without huge amounts of luck) in getting us to the premier and keeping us their albeit hanging on by our bootlaces.
Over the past two seasons he has made some very big expensive mistakes. FdB, Benteke, Sakho, Wickham etc etc.
In this period his luck seems to have run out and his decision making has been awful as has his inability to complete deals in a tight time frame.
OK, Roy Hodgson has proven himself, but the choice of players we have brought in have proven to be physically weak hence so many injuries.
I feel he has an increasingly tough position. The more mistakes he makes the harder it gets. This last transfer window was a very poor outcome.
I am not convinced about the magnificent proposed stand that if ever built will make the Arthur look like something from yester year. For sure we will have an imbalanced stadium a bit like the imbalances SP seems to be struggling with constantly now.
In business it is hard to continually succeed these days. Everything is short term with no long term planning anymore. There are so many unknowns ahead. It is nearly impossible to plan. Luck plays a big part. Personally I feel like it looks as though SP has had a huge amount of luck early days which currently appears to have evaporated.
I really hope I am wrong.
Going down and the consequences would not be pretty.

Edited by dreamwaverider (27 Feb 2018 7.55am)

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 27 Feb 18 7.57am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Over the past two seasons he has made some very big expensive mistakes. FdB, Benteke, Sakho, Wickham etc etc.

I really don't think that you can blame SP for Wickham's lengthy spell on the sidelines with an ACL injury as that can happen to anyone

 

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View Username's Profile Username Flag Horsham 27 Feb 18 7.58am Send a Private Message to Username Add Username as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

If or when we are relegated, it will be his fault and his alone, he has allowed us to enter this current campaign with only one fit striker and with a manager that was on another planet, then he failed to deliver the six players Roy wanted in the last transfer window, last weekend showed how feeble we are, so much so that poor Roy had to put DD on for the last few minutes after Tomkins was taken off because he had no other option, even though he knows DD is too slow and well past his retirement date! Come on Steve man up and admit you are not up to your role as you see it!

It doesn't matter how big your squad is, if you lose defenders like Dann, Sakho, Kelly & Tomkins to injury, your sixth choice is going to be a step down.

SP is far from perfect, but I'm not sure he can be blamed for issues in the defense, where we do actually have cover, it's just that the cover has also got injured.

 


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View Username's Profile Username Flag Horsham 27 Feb 18 8.00am Send a Private Message to Username Add Username as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Undoubtedly other parties would have stepped in if SP consortium had not.
SP, however, did a brilliant job ( not without huge amounts of luck) in getting us to the premier and keeping us their albeit hanging on by our bootlaces.
Over the past two seasons he has made some very big expensive mistakes. FdB, Benteke, Sakho, Wickham etc etc.
In this period his luck seems to have run out and his decision making has been awful as has his inability to complete deals in a tight time frame.
OK, Roy Hodgson has proven himself, but the choice of players we have brought in have proven to be physically weak hence so many injuries.
I feel he has an increasingly tough position. The more mistakes he makes the harder it gets. This last transfer window was a very poor outcome.
I am not convinced about the magnificent proposed stand that if ever built will make the Arthur look like something from yester year. For sure we will have an imbalanced stadium a bit like the imbalances SP seems to be struggling with constantly now.
In business it is hard to continually succeed these days. Everything is short term with no long term planning anymore. There are so many unknowns ahead. It is nearly impossible to plan. Luck plays a big part. Personally I feel like it looks as though SP has had a huge amount of luck early days which currently appears to have evaporated.
I really hope I am wrong.
Going down and the consequences would not be pretty.

Edited by dreamwaverider (27 Feb 2018 7.55am)

Very, very harsh to call Wickham a mistake.

Benteke kept us up last season with his goals.

Sakho? Go back and read the threads from over the summer, the overwhelming majority of people on here wanted that deal to happen, and were annoyed that we were haggling over the price.

FDB, yep he was a mistake, and one that was rectified about as quickly as possible.

 


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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 27 Feb 18 8.08am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

Perhaps it’s just coincidence but things seem to have been going wrong since the American investors came in.
There was the terrible winless run and poor home form under Pardew, Allardyce surprisingly leaving,the fiasco over FDB and the confused transfer policy.
Parish is the only original member of the consortium actively involved with the club, and it is evident that the Americans have the right of veto on key decisions e.g major transfers,managerial decisions.
This may partly explain the slowness of the decision making process, lack of evident strategy around transfers and why Parish gives these interviews to American media outlets.

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 27 Feb 18 8.10am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

FdB, Benteke, Sakho, Wickham etc etc.
Edited by dreamwaverider (27 Feb 2018 7.55am)

FdB it seems was a mistake, but Bentenke had a good first season and his goals played a big part in keeping us up, Sakho was a beast last season and pretty much everyone wanted him back, while Wickham was showing some really good form just before his injury and was not awful before that. Add to that signings like Dann, Tomkins, Luka, Cabaye and McArthur. You can't say all the bad ones are SP's fault and all the good ones are the manager's. Also, he was the one who fought to get Zaha back, maybe even to the point of pushing Pulis out. Would anyone rather have Pulis than Zaha? I know I wouldn't.

I agree that it would appear there is something not right with the way we are managing the transfer windows and I also would hazard a guess that some of Roy's predecessors may have wanted more control over transfers and that's why they left. He has not been perfect, but in my time supporting Palace I would say he's been our best chairman and I would definitely have him over Russian mafia, Saudi blood money, Chicken dealers or the fat, unpopular bloke at Newcastle.

Some people just seem to want a scapegoat to get angry at when results don't go our way and I get that and I just hope SP and the club can see it is just frustration too, plus as a fan I'm sure he is just as frustrated.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 27 Feb 18 8.16am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by Username

Very, very harsh to call Wickham a mistake.

Benteke kept us up last season with his goals.

Sakho? Go back and read the threads from over the summer, the overwhelming majority of people on here wanted that deal to happen, and were annoyed that we were haggling over the price.

FDB, yep he was a mistake, and one that was rectified about as quickly as possible.

I don’t disagree. As I said further down, luck plays a huge part and with so many players currently injured SP’s luck has run out through injury.
So yes, it is a very harsh view, especially when bad luck plays such a big part. If good luck had not deserted him, we would have no injuries and be mid table. But it is what it is and in hindsight he should have secured more established players in the last window.

 

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View collier row eagle's Profile collier row eagle Flag romford essex via another galaxy 27 Feb 18 8.21am Send a Private Message to collier row eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add collier row eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Norway

Listen - without Steve Parish Palace would have been somewhere in the championship or league 1 - he has saved the club and deserves every backing

The time of dining out on that have gone by long ago

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 27 Feb 18 8.49am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by collier row eagle

The time of dining out on that have gone by long ago

Really?

No other Chairman has taken us from Administration to 5 years in the Premiership or been anywhere near that record. Some of us have been supporters for years and are used to failure of a false dawn and appreciate where we are now.

 

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