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The curious case of Count Dankula

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 23 Apr 18 4.05pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

@CountDankulaTV

To anyone trying to say I "Nazi saluted" on my way out of court.

I was waving you dunce.


Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Apr 2018 4.06pm)

 

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View Park Road's Profile Park Road Flag 23 Apr 18 4.26pm Send a Private Message to Park Road Add Park Road as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Tim Pool filming a video on the demonstration for Count Dankula....a demonstration the impartial BBC described as 'small'.


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Didn't watch all of it.
Certainly, came across as one of the most lighthearted demonstrations I've ever seen.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 23 Apr 18 4.42pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Park Road

Didn't watch all of it.
Certainly, came across as one of the most lighthearted demonstrations I've ever seen.

As befitting a comedian I suppose. One demo held in Scotland as well but as they only live in caves up there all that was heard emerging from one was an echoey cry of 'Freeedommm'.

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

As befitting a comedian I suppose. One demo held in Scotland as well but as they only live in caves up there all that was heard emerging from one was an echoey cry of 'Freeedommm'.

Stewart Lee educating a Glaswegian audience.
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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 23 Apr 18 6.47pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Dankula is refusing to pay the fine and is going to set up a crowd funding to appeal it.


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 23 Apr 18 6.55pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I am a first amendment supporter so I think as long as you are not threatening or inciting violence you have the right to offend.

In this case it is more complicated because he is being prosecuted under laws that relate to telecommunications. In other words if he did this at Hyde Park corner I would have no problem. However that doesn't mean that the BBC should be forced to show this to satisfy his free speech rights, you wouldn't show hardcore p*** on un-encrypted channels.

Its a tricky one but I do think that these so called hate crimes have gone too far.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 23 Apr 18 7.47pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I am a first amendment supporter so I think as long as you are not threatening or inciting violence you have the right to offend.

In this case it is more complicated because he is being prosecuted under laws that relate to telecommunications. In other words if he did this at Hyde Park corner I would have no problem. However that doesn't mean that the BBC should be forced to show this to satisfy his free speech rights, you wouldn't show hardcore p*** on un-encrypted channels.

Its a tricky one but I do think that these so called hate crimes have gone too far.

At the time he was reported for this 'crime' he had 7 subscribers on a YouTube channel. No one complained, the Police actually forwarded the video to a Scottish Jewish group to register a complaint.....that's our Police now.

No one is required to watch the video and his channel intro makes it pretty plain that he's an edgy comedian.

I'd agree that some of his stuff is uncomfortable.

Mind you, there's a lot of crap on TV that makes me uncomfortable right now...It's pure drivel...If I want a TV set I'm required to pay for it or undergo the Spanish inquisition from the BBC.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Apr 2018 7.48pm)

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 25 Apr 18 10.31am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Here's an update.

I'll post Dankula's own words here:

'On the 23rd of April 2018 I was sentenced to an 800 fine after being found guilty of being "grossly offensive" under section 127 of the Offensive Communications Act 2003. Due to me creating a clearly comedic video where I trained my girlfriends pug to be a Nazi.

The only way for the court to secure a conviction was to willingly ignore the clear context of the video, which was explained twice, in the video itself.

This conviction will be used as an example to convict other people over the things they say and the jokes they make, it sets a standard where courts will be able to willfully ignore the context and intent of a persons words and actions in order to punish them and brand them as criminals.

This is the amount that has been quoted by my lawyer, the reason it has been quoted so high is my lawyer wishes to bring in top legal representatives to ensure that we have the highest chance of reversing the standard that this case sets, I cannot allow the 2 years of litigation I went through and having my life put on hold, to happen to anyone else.

I will be 100% transparent with these funds, all bills in regards to the case will be made publicly available.'

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I've contributed last night and just looked at the total. As I write the appeal's been live for 18 hours and amassed 77, 669.

This is despite this case having received minimal publicity from the main media and Dankula having been frequently described as 'far right' or 'alt right' by overly ideological journalists.....both of which is ridiculous.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Apr 2018 10.34am)

 

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The appeal is on.

Dankula reached the funding goal within 25 hours of starting.

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View thegreatlardino's Profile thegreatlardino Flag creepy crawley 25 Apr 18 6.01pm Send a Private Message to thegreatlardino Add thegreatlardino as a friend

the bloke is a class k**b but the problem here is now a precedent has been set by the court as he mentioned, i cant see how it was in the public interest to bring this case?

 


Oh Dracula comes from Transylvania
Stevie nicks books about kleptomania
Johnny looked out of his bedroom window
And shouted to his mum "Fred Titmus!"

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Originally posted by thegreatlardino

the bloke is a class k**b but the problem here is now a precedent has been set by the court as he mentioned, i cant see how it was in the public interest to bring this case?

We are into dangerous territory at the moment. That girl who posted 'rap' lyrics had to do community service and pay a 'victim' fine.

 

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Just an update, the appeal fund for Dankula is now at:
186,327

Nearly double the asked for amount. Raised by 7,644 people in 10 days.

People prepared to put money where their mouth is on free speech.

 

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