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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 18 Sep 18 3.58pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Islington Eagle

Why do you think I am Pro mass immigration. I have expressed no opinion on that.
All I did was challenge a comment by another poster that said
""The English need to be a majority in England"."

No one has yet explained what this means?

What bit precisely don't you understand?

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Sep 18 4.02pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Islington Eagle



Why do you think I am Pro mass immigration. I have expressed no opinion on that.

All I did was challenge a comment by another poster that said
""The English need to be a majority in England"."

No one has yet explained what this means?

You have said nothing of any consequence, just asked daft questions to which you expect a sensible answer.

I'd say a majority of English people in England is easy to understand unless you want to play games of political correctness.

 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 18 Sep 18 4.07pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Islington Eagle

If that makes you happy snowflake.

Do you call people of colour snowflake when they get called racist names ?

 

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View Penge Eagle's Profile Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 18 Sep 18 4.27pm Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

It's about English/British culture and values. You can be any skin colour for this.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 18 Sep 18 4.34pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

It was made perfectly clear what was meant by 'The English need to be a majority in England.'

How anyone could have read what I had posted and not understood beggars belief.....like claiming not to know the word, 'redneck' despite having used the word 'racist'.

How selective.

I stated that I once believed the lies about integration.

I stated that this happens for far too few....that the level of integration differed by amount and varied by group. I offered up questionaires as proof of the failure and lies of those who said integration would happen....When I looked at this seriously I noticed that it never really happens with high immigration rates anywhere in the world....America is divided by racial as well as social groups.....These were lies made by liars and/or the ignorant/stupid.

I was stupid to buy into it.....there is a minority who are great...but without a considerable filter it's a disaster.

I stated...I think....that continued high immigration means that England as a country would lose its national consciousness as being English.....simply due to the fact that the English would be a ever decreasing minority.

As for what is English. I like to think of English as being allegiance to being 'English' first.....not 'British' (a word that now means little)....if you are British you should only hold allegiance to the home countries of these islands.

It means valuing the customs and rituals and language of England first and foremost over and above any other....that's anglo saxon culture.

Some people think it has to mean you're white, but while I recognise that this would be the majority I don't see it like that. We have people with mixed heritage and they have to be able to nail their colours so to speak.

You can become English if you are committed to it.....Just like you can become Jewish if you are committed to it....but if it's not genuine it needs to be rejected. Nationality here has been a badge of convenience and I totally reject it.

But like the Jews there's no encouragement.....there should be no diluting of nationality to please internationalists.

They want nothing but the destruction of unique nationalities.

Just like Tibetans deserve their own homeland, so do the English. A foreign minority is fine, just as long as it is never allowed to compete in influence with an English one.

Just like the Jews have done with recent 'nation state' laws passed in Israel.....Unless there is a majority of English people in England.....it is no longer England.


Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Sep 2018 5.50pm)

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Sep 18 5.14pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

History is full of migrants and invaders altering British culture. What is important is whether those changes are positive or negative. Most archeology and history generally is reinterpreted time after time to suit contemporary attitudes. Right now we are in the grip of Left wing idealism which wishes to portray historical Britain as always being this welcoming multicultural haven. That is a lot of crap. People usually adapt to change when they have no choice. Most like familiarity and if they do embrace change voluntarily, it is only change for the better. We all like change for the better.

Indulging in discussions about what is English and skin colour an all the usual diversion is nonsense. We uphold the existing culture when we like it and we reject and absorb as we see fit. What we don't want is unacceptable changes being forced upon us by our leaders.
We live in a country where our government invites potential enemies of the state to come here in large numbers along with their crazy religions and now wants to spy on us all to supposedly protect the public from them.
Does anyone ones see something wrong with this?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 Sep 2018 5.16pm)

 

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View Islington Eagle's Profile Islington Eagle Flag North of the River 18 Sep 18 5.45pm Send a Private Message to Islington Eagle Add Islington Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

History is full of migrants and invaders altering British culture. What is important is whether those changes are positive or negative. Most archeology and history generally is reinterpreted time after time to suit contemporary attitudes. Right now we are in the grip of Left wing idealism which wishes to portray historical Britain as always being this welcoming multicultural haven. That is a lot of crap. People usually adapt to change when they have no choice. Most like familiarity and if they do embrace change voluntarily, it is only change for the better. We all like change for the better.

Indulging in discussions about what is English and skin colour an all the usual diversion is nonsense. We uphold the existing culture when we like it and we reject and absorb as we see fit. What we don't want is unacceptable changes being forced upon us by our leaders.
We live in a country where our government invites potential enemies of the state to come here in large numbers along with their crazy religions and now wants to spy on us all to supposedly protect the public from them.
Does anyone ones see something wrong with this?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 Sep 2018 5.16pm)

The gist of what you are saying in this post is pretty much what a lot of peple would agree with. In particular I was trying to make exactly the point that you make here "Indulging in discussions about what is English and skin colour an all the usual diversion is nonsense" However I do start to disagree when you start talking about Culture. I am Engish but I object to saying my "culture" is the same as your culture. For instance I was brought up in the countryside in Sussex and my "culture" is way different from someone who grew up in an industrial town in Yorkshire. So I would object when this comes into the discussion. See my earlier quote about defending your culture.
At the end of the day there is a law of the land and everyone should obey it. If you don't you get sanctioned as per the law of the land. End of. Criminals are criminals, and law abiding citizens are welcome. Parliament and the Judiciary make and implement the law, and the people elect the govenment. That is how the UK works. Don't like it change it by democratic means. But whinging like some of the bitches on here is a joke.

 


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Originally posted by Islington Eagle


Lets also be clear. You seem to know your history very well so you will know that the Mass rape of young girls, religious fanaticism, divided communities, a constant threat of terrorism. forced marriages, mistreatment of women - all these things have been common on this island since people were on this island.

It is nothing new and will sadly be here in years to come. To suggest that we have recently imported ANY one of those items above is 100% without any foundation.

so Rotherham/Rochdale/Telford etc is all just normal everyday news ? and its all just to be accepted as normal ? At best this is ignorant at worst it is plain madness.

That is so deluded you need our pity and sympathy. I feel sorry for you and dark world inside your head.

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View Islington Eagle's Profile Islington Eagle Flag North of the River 18 Sep 18 5.55pm Send a Private Message to Islington Eagle Add Islington Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Some people think it has to mean you're white, but while I recognise that this would be the majority I don't see it like that. We have people with mixed heritage and they have to be able to nail their colours so to speak.

But like the Jews there's not encouragement.....there should be no diluting of nationality to please internationalists.

They want nothing but the destruction of unique nationalities.

Just like Tibetans deserve their own homeland, so do the English.


Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Sep 2018 4.50pm)

So much wrong with this post that I can't be bothered to start.
However at the end of the day anyone saying that only White and some mixed heritage people can be English, whilst also making the case for racial based homelands in my books is a Racist and I see no point in engaging with you. These are your opinions, you are welcome to them. But don't blur the lines and try to persuade me that this is anything other than what it is.

Most people reject your view. This is not my England.

sayonara - don't bother replying cause I won't be back.

 


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Originally posted by Islington Eagle

So much wrong with this post that I can't be bothered to start.
However at the end of the day anyone saying that only White and some mixed heritage people can be English, whilst also making the case for racial based homelands in my books is a Racist and I see no point in engaging with you. These are your opinions, you are welcome to them. But don't blur the lines and try to persuade me that this is anything other than what it is.

Most people reject your view. This is not my England.

sayonara - don't bother replying cause I won't be back.

Every cloud........

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Sep 18 6.27pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Islington Eagle

The gist of what you are saying in this post is pretty much what a lot of peple would agree with. In particular I was trying to make exactly the point that you make here "Indulging in discussions about what is English and skin colour an all the usual diversion is nonsense" However I do start to disagree when you start talking about Culture. I am Engish but I object to saying my "culture" is the same as your culture. For instance I was brought up in the countryside in Sussex and my "culture" is way different from someone who grew up in an industrial town in Yorkshire. So I would object when this comes into the discussion. See my earlier quote about defending your culture.
At the end of the day there is a law of the land and everyone should obey it. If you don't you get sanctioned as per the law of the land. End of. Criminals are criminals, and law abiding citizens are welcome. Parliament and the Judiciary make and implement the law, and the people elect the govenment. That is how the UK works. Don't like it change it by democratic means. But whinging like some of the bitches on here is a joke.

The world culture is a general term used to avoid discussing every nuance. The terminology of such discussions seems to become the key focus when people don't really have a decent counter argument.
Criminality is not the be all and end all of behaviour, especially when the treatment and definitions of crime seem to have become increasingly political and selective. Some sections of society commit far more crime and yet no one wants to acknowledge that. Some abhorrent religious practices are not illegal and should be.

 

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Originally posted by Islington Eagle

So much wrong with this post that I can't be bothered to start.
However at the end of the day anyone saying that only White and some mixed heritage people can be English, whilst also making the case for racial based homelands in my books is a Racist and I see no point in engaging with you. These are your opinions, you are welcome to them. But don't blur the lines and try to persuade me that this is anything other than what it is.

Most people reject your view. This is not my England.

sayonara - don't bother replying cause I won't be back.


Like I said when I first replied to you.....you are a liar....and here again you prove this.

You selectively edited my statement on this area to exclude this comment.

'You can become English if you are committed to it.....Just like you can become Jewish if you are committed to it.'

This includes any skin colour.

I do not exclude the concept of becoming another nationality to people if they are genuinely committed to it.... What I exclude is the false commitment to it.....The dilution of it...The idea that you can treat nationality like a mere detail. Like people with your attitude for example and I have zero idea of your skin colour.

I would only have a permanent minority of people here who identified with another country.....perhaps a larger percent who identified with home countries (these islands).

As for you not being back....good riddance if that's your attitude to being on here.

Go back and nest with your fellow liars.....oh and carry on using the 'gammon' term even though it marks you out as a racist and a hypocrite.

England must have a majority of English people in it for it to remain English.


Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Sep 2018 6.41pm)

 


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