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becky over the moon 18 Sep 18 7.22pm
Originally posted by Islington Eagle The gist of what you are saying in this post is pretty much what a lot of peple would agree with. In particular I was trying to make exactly the point that you make here "Indulging in discussions about what is English and skin colour an all the usual diversion is nonsense" However I do start to disagree when you start talking about Culture. I am Engish but I object to saying my "culture" is the same as your culture. For instance I was brought up in the countryside in Sussex and my "culture" is way different from someone who grew up in an industrial town in Yorkshire. So I would object when this comes into the discussion. See my earlier quote about defending your culture. At the end of the day there is a law of the land and everyone should obey it. If you don't you get sanctioned as per the law of the land. End of. Criminals are criminals, and law abiding citizens are welcome. Parliament and the Judiciary make and implement the law, and the people elect the govenment. That is how the UK works. Don't like it change it by democratic means. But whinging like some of the bitches on here is a joke. If it was a village in Sussex, then you would be only too aware of the situation when a family moves into a village and they are regarded as 'outsiders' for at least 5 generations. After that, if they have integrated into village life and the community and it's activities, then, if they are lucky, they may eventually be regarded as a 'local'. What SS is saying is exactly the same thing, except on a national rather than a provincial level. A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 18 Sep 18 7.22pm

Originally posted by Islington Eagle

The gist of what you are saying in this post is pretty much what a lot of peple would agree with. In particular I was trying to make exactly the point that you make here "Indulging in discussions about what is English and skin colour an all the usual diversion is nonsense" However I do start to disagree when you start talking about Culture. I am Engish but I object to saying my "culture" is the same as your culture. For instance I was brought up in the countryside in Sussex and my "culture" is way different from someone who grew up in an industrial town in Yorkshire. So I would object when this comes into the discussion. See my earlier quote about defending your culture.
At the end of the day there is a law of the land and everyone should obey it. If you don't you get sanctioned as per the law of the land. End of. Criminals are criminals, and law abiding citizens are welcome. Parliament and the Judiciary make and implement the law, and the people elect the govenment. That is how the UK works. Don't like it change it by democratic means. But whinging like some of the bitches on here is a joke.

If it was a village in Sussex, then you would be only too aware of the situation when a family moves into a village and they are regarded as 'outsiders' for at least 5 generations. After that, if they have integrated into village life and the community and it's activities, then, if they are lucky, they may eventually be regarded as a 'local'. What SS is saying is exactly the same thing, except on a national rather than a provincial level.

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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PalazioVecchio south pole 18 Sep 18 11.08pm
anybody recorded the Liverpool v PSG game in the champions league ? 64 mins 78 mins you can clearly hear the name of Tommy being chanted. now why would fans of a club close to Rochdale be chanting the name of a gobby little fella from Luton ? chanting to be heard all across the globe ? its difficult for the MainStream Media to stem a tide. Eze Peasy at Anfield....
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anybody recorded the Liverpool v PSG game in the champions league ?

64 mins
78 mins

you can clearly hear the name of Tommy being chanted.

now why would fans of a club close to Rochdale be chanting the name of a gobby little fella from Luton ?

chanting to be heard all across the globe ?

its difficult for the MainStream Media to stem a tide.

Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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dannyboy1978 19 Sep 18 5.29am
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio anybody recorded the Liverpool v PSG game in the champions league ? 64 mins 78 mins you can clearly hear the name of Tommy being chanted. now why would fans of a club close to Rochdale be chanting the name of a gobby little fella from Luton ? chanting to be heard all across the globe ? its difficult for the MainStream Media to stem a tide. Liverpool away fans sang it at palace also
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19 Sep 18 5.29am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

anybody recorded the Liverpool v PSG game in the champions league ?

64 mins
78 mins

you can clearly hear the name of Tommy being chanted.

now why would fans of a club close to Rochdale be chanting the name of a gobby little fella from Luton ?

chanting to be heard all across the globe ?

its difficult for the MainStream Media to stem a tide.

Liverpool away fans sang it at palace also

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dannyboy1978 19 Sep 18 7.09am
This is very interesting showing the contrast between the BBC and Tommy Robinson [Link]
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19 Sep 18 7.09am

This is very interesting showing the contrast between the BBC and Tommy Robinson
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DanH SW2 19 Sep 18 8.35am
Such a shame you guys lived outside the generation of being able to embrace difference. I�m so glad I lived in a multicultural city. I�d rather have that mix of cultures then everyone being the same. And to me, my generation have bought into being �British� more so than a lot of the people than inhabit the local pubs.
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SW2 19 Sep 18 8.35am

Such a shame you guys lived outside the generation of being able to embrace difference. I�m so glad I lived in a multicultural city. I�d rather have that mix of cultures then everyone being the same.

And to me, my generation have bought into being �British� more so than a lot of the people than inhabit the local pubs.

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dannyboy1978 19 Sep 18 9.23am
Originally posted by DanH Such a shame you guys lived outside the generation of being able to embrace difference. I�m so glad I lived in a multicultural city. I�d rather have that mix of cultures then everyone being the same. And to me, my generation have bought into being �British� more so than a lot of the people than inhabit the local pubs. NO..It's such a shame you don't understand people's concerns. [Link] [Link] [Link]
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dannyboy1978

19 Sep 18 9.23am

Originally posted by DanH

And to me, my generation have bought into being �British� more so than a lot of the people than inhabit the local pubs.

NO..It's such a shame you don't understand people's concerns.
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Hrolf The Ganger 19 Sep 18 11.30am
Originally posted by DanH Such a shame you guys lived outside the generation of being able to embrace difference. I�m so glad I lived in a multicultural city. I�d rather have that mix of cultures then everyone being the same. And to me, my generation have bought into being �British� more so than a lot of the people than inhabit the local pubs. More trite fluffy nonsense. Who wouldn't want a multicultural society if it was so perfect and simple? It isn't. So stop pretending that it is to make yourself sound all virtuous. I am 54 and I have seen nothing that convinces me that mass immigration has made this country better.
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19 Sep 18 11.30am

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Originally posted by DanH

And to me, my generation have bought into being �British� more so than a lot of the people than inhabit the local pubs.

More trite fluffy nonsense.

Who wouldn't want a multicultural society if it was so perfect and simple?
It isn't. So stop pretending that it is to make yourself sound all virtuous.
I am 54 and I have seen nothing that convinces me that mass immigration has made this country better.

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dannyboy1978 19 Sep 18 11.55am
Originally posted by DanH Such a shame you guys lived outside the generation of being able to embrace difference. I�m so glad I lived in a multicultural city. I�d rather have that mix of cultures then everyone being the same. And to me, my generation have bought into being �British� more so than a lot of the people than inhabit the local pubs. I would be interested to know out of all the multiple cultures which ones you like and enjoy embracing. And how do you mix with a different culture exactly? Are you going to various churches and mosques, dipping your toe into different traditions?
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dannyboy1978

19 Sep 18 11.55am

Originally posted by DanH

And to me, my generation have bought into being �British� more so than a lot of the people than inhabit the local pubs.

I would be interested to know out of all the multiple cultures which ones you like and enjoy embracing. And how do you mix with a different culture exactly? Are you going to various churches and mosques, dipping your toe into different traditions?

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PalazioVecchio south pole 19 Sep 18 11.56am
Originally posted by DanH Such a shame you guys lived outside the generation of being able to embrace difference. I�m so glad I lived in a multicultural city. I�d rather have that mix of cultures then everyone being the same. And to me, my generation have bought into being �British� more so than a lot of the people than inhabit the local pubs. such a shame you live in your own little sanctimonious bubble. Eze Peasy at Anfield....
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south pole 19 Sep 18 11.56am

Originally posted by DanH

And to me, my generation have bought into being �British� more so than a lot of the people than inhabit the local pubs.

such a shame you live in your own little sanctimonious bubble.

Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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W12 20 Sep 18 10.39pm
The problem seems to have come down to the ruling classes and the media (even the so called right wing media and politicians) normalising the use of the racist card as an acceptable defence for all nefarious Islamist crap. They are so scared of that label that it automatically makes Robinson far right which doesn�t equate to what he says. I for one assumed TR was just another NF biggot for a while (not paying much attention) and then heard his speach at the Oxford Union. The two don�t add up and what this country has put him through personally is just shameful and scrarily Orwellian. Go to Luton as well and you might get an insight into this. If you are undecided watch the whole Oxfords Union thing and the Q&A after and decide for yourself.
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W12 20 Sep 18 10.39pm

The problem seems to have come down to the ruling classes and the media (even the so called right wing media and politicians) normalising the use of the racist card as an acceptable defence for all nefarious Islamist crap. They are so scared of that label that it automatically makes Robinson far right which doesn�t equate to what he says.

I for one assumed TR was just another NF biggot for a while (not paying much attention) and then heard his speach at the Oxford Union. The two don�t add up and what this country has put him through personally is just shameful and scrarily Orwellian. Go to Luton as well and you might get an insight into this.

If you are undecided watch the whole Oxfords Union thing and the Q&A after and decide for yourself.

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Stirlingsays 20 Sep 18 10.53pm
Originally posted by DanH Such a shame you guys lived outside the generation of being able to embrace difference. I�m so glad I lived in a multicultural city. I�d rather have that mix of cultures then everyone being the same. And to me, my generation have bought into being �British� more so than a lot of the people than inhabit the local pubs. 'Lived'......moved out to like in a high percent white area.....funny that isn't it....Not statistically of course because statistically you what you did was just very common. So when are you moving back? People need to live their principles and not make excuses. If you love a 'mix of cultures', like you say you do.....You should be living with a mix of cultures.....not you know....living in a near totally white area. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Sep 2018 10.56pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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20 Sep 18 10.53pm

Originally posted by DanH

Such a shame you guys lived outside the generation of being able to embrace difference. I�m so glad I lived in a multicultural city. I�d rather have that mix of cultures then everyone being the same.

And to me, my generation have bought into being �British� more so than a lot of the people than inhabit the local pubs.

'Lived'......moved out to like in a high percent white area.....funny that isn't it....Not statistically of course because statistically you what you did was just very common.

So when are you moving back? People need to live their principles and not make excuses.

If you love a 'mix of cultures', like you say you do.....You should be living with a mix of cultures.....not you know....living in a near totally white area.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Sep 2018 10.56pm)

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Mapletree Croydon 20 Sep 18 11.07pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio anybody recorded the Liverpool v PSG game in the champions league ? 64 mins 78 mins you can clearly hear the name of Tommy being chanted. now why would fans of a club close to Rochdale be chanting the name of a gobby little fella from Luton ? chanting to be heard all across the globe ? its difficult for the MainStream Media to stem a tide. Not in my name. This thug is being used as a totem for a group of people who are intent on fomenting trouble Football is not political. I despise its use in that way. I also despise those that wish to turn ordinary people against one another.
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Croydon 20 Sep 18 11.07pm