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 dannyboy1978  21 Jun 18 7.29am |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
Most failed or were foiled. Kim’s still right, we have more right to be worried about lawnmowers as they’re killing more people. Stats don’t lie. I chose to not concern myself with either threats and leave that to the professionals. Let’s me enjoy a much more stress free existence. Lawnmower accidents are an ACCIDENT.!!
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| Stirlingsays 21 Jun 18 7.41am |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Multi cultures or multiple pockets of different cultures? Good question. Lets just say that despite being an awful major.....I don't see Khan being voted out. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Jun 2018 7.42am)
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| dannyboy1978 21 Jun 18 7.48am |
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For those people who think 99.9 are all good
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| derby eagle Derby 21 Jun 18 8.34am |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
For those people who think 99.9 are all good However, that shows that relatively speaking there are 75% which have mo sympathy. Yet only 57% of Britons think Islam is a genuine force or better. 72% of Britons dont think Islam is compatible with British values. So ypu could quite easily argue that those figures show British Muslims are actually more pro British values of freedom of speech and tolerance than Britons are themselves. How amusing and ironic! "In a 2016 survey by ComRes of 2000 Britons, for example, 31% agreed that Islam promotes acts of violence in the UK. Some 43% said it was a negative force in the country and only 28% believed it was compatible with “British values”. "
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 21 Jun 18 8.40am |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
For those people who think 99.9 are all good 'Almost all (95 per cent) described feeling loyal to Britain and believed they should obey British laws (93 per cent).' Surely this is the main concern? Most Irish had sympathy for the conditions which guelled the IRA whilst still condemning the violence. As for integration, I think it actually goes deeper than class as Matov suggests. I think a large part of it is the isolationism we feel as individuals to our community - that there is 'no such thing as society' as Thatcher said - and I think this is connected to the ideology of neoliberalism which the West has tried to spread across the world. I see it when I go back to where I was raised, Wimbledon, which when I grew up was mainly a lower middle class white area. The chip shop has gone, so have most of the independent cafes, and the local community hall. These were places I remember as a kid going to and seeing people I knew, from all walks of life. You knew the owners, you knew the waitresses by name. Nowadays theyve been replaced by Joe and the Juices and Estate Agents. The area is a lot more mixed, and a lot more wealthy. But there is an absence of society as Thatcher prophesied, and while no one is poor enough to feel genuine animosity towards their neighbours, integration rarely extends beyond your own front door, regardless of skin colour. Where I work now, in Tower Hamlets, is almost like a different country. You are shadowed by the city skyscrapers but surrounded by extreme poverty. Drug addicts of all races saunter around the roads, kids are either bunking school on the road or in overcrowded, underfunded schools with little access to decent education. Yes, it is a large Bangladeshi community but ironically there has always been a far greater feeling of integration than in Wimbledon. Outside Whitechapel library, stalls flogging fresh veg and clothing, and down Commercial Street a number of curry and kebab houses, where I can buy a cheap meal and be welcomed almost too amicably. True, there is gang violence and much of that is ethnic based. But the vast majority of people there just want a happy life, to feel respected and proud. And I guarantee on Sunday most of them will be glued to television sets for England's game, and will cheer Kane's goal with whoever is with them, black white or brown.
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| matt_himself Matataland 21 Jun 18 8.47am |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
'Almost all (95 per cent) described feeling loyal to Britain and believed they should obey British laws (93 per cent).' Surely this is the main concern? Most Irish had sympathy for the conditions which guelled the IRA whilst still condemning the violence. As for integration, I think it actually goes deeper than class as Matov suggests. I think a large part of it is the isolationism we feel as individuals to our community - that there is 'no such thing as society' as Thatcher said - and I think this is connected to the ideology of neoliberalism which the West has tried to spread across the world. I see it when I go back to where I was raised, Wimbledon, which when I grew up was mainly a lower middle class white area. The chip shop has gone, so have most of the independent cafes, and the local community hall. These were places I remember as a kid going to and seeing people I knew, from all walks of life. You knew the owners, you knew the waitresses by name. Nowadays theyve been replaced by Joe and the Juices and Estate Agents. The area is a lot more mixed, and a lot more wealthy. But there is an absence of society as Thatcher prophesied, and while no one is poor enough to feel genuine animosity towards their neighbours, integration rarely extends beyond your own front door, regardless of skin colour. Where I work now, in Tower Hamlets, is almost like a different country. You are shadowed by the city skyscrapers but surrounded by extreme poverty. Drug addicts of all races saunter around the roads, kids are either bunking school on the road or in overcrowded, underfunded schools with little access to decent education. Yes, it is a large Bangladeshi community but ironically there has always been a far greater feeling of integration than in Wimbledon. Outside Whitechapel library, stalls flogging fresh veg and clothing, and down Commercial Street a number of curry and kebab houses, where I can buy a cheap meal and be welcomed almost too amicably. True, there is gang violence and much of that is ethnic based. But the vast majority of people there just want a happy life, to feel respected and proud. And I guarantee on Sunday most of them will be glued to television sets for England's game, and will cheer Kane's goal with whoever is with them, black white or brown. ‘You are shadowed by the city skyscrapers but surrounded by extreme poverty’ This is where you lose your argument. There is no ‘extreme poverty’ in London. Most people have a roof over their heads, access to education and healthcare. ‘Extreme poverty’ is orphans growing up in Gurgaon under motorway bridges. Get some perspective.
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| Stirlingsays 21 Jun 18 8.48am |
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I think Serial genuinely loves diversity and that's good for him. May he long exist in it. But I don't think he gets it and Serial, I think you can rightly be accused of flogging crap about majority allegiance to Britain/England in foreign communities. The future ahead is going to be a troubled one. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Jun 2018 8.50am)
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| Midlands Eagle 21 Jun 18 9.46am |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
‘You are shadowed by the city skyscrapers but surrounded by extreme poverty’ This is where you lose your argument. There is no ‘extreme poverty’ in London. Most people have a roof over their heads, access to education and healthcare. ‘Extreme poverty’ is orphans growing up in Gurgaon under motorway bridges. Get some perspective. All this nitpicking because he used the word "extreme"
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| DanH SW2 21 Jun 18 10.03am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Good question. Lets just say that despite being an awful major.....I don't see Khan being voted out. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Jun 2018 7.42am) Not even trying to hide it any more are you?
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| Badger11 Beckenham 21 Jun 18 10.05am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
All this nitpicking because he used the word "extreme" Fair comment poverty is relative, mind you I knew a guy who claimed he grew up in the ghetto (he meant Penge).
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| Stirlingsays 21 Jun 18 10.15am |
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Originally posted by DanH
Not even trying to hide it any more are you? Hide what?
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 21 Jun 18 10.16am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Good question. Lets just say that despite being an awful major.....I don't see Khan being voted out. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Jun 2018 7.42am) How has he been an awful mayor? What the hell did Boris or Livingston do better than him in the tenures, other than be white?
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