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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 06 Apr 18 1.17pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

I would also include acid. I'd add to it that anyone without a job that requires a knife/blade or acid, found in possession of either, is an instant guilty.

No, "it's for my gran's drains" or "i've got a rabbit to butcher at home later", type of excuses allowed.

in principle i would agree with you. The subtle part is context, a granny standing in her front garden and using a kitchen knife to prune her Roses is hardly a threat to joe public. The difficult legal point is about the context and the intent.

a plumber carrying his toolbox 20 yards from his van to a job is theoretically carrying many lethal weapons.

a 16 year old hoody walking through the whitgift centre with a large butchers knive concealed in his sock is deserving of a long stretch in prison, his young age should not get him off taking some responsibility for his actions.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (06 Apr 2018 1.24pm)

 


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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

in principle i would agree with you. The subtle part is context, a granny standing in her front garden and using a kitchen knife to prune her Roses is hardly a threat to joe public. The difficult legal point is about the context and the intent.

a plumber carrying his toolbox 20 yards from his van to a job is theoretically carrying many lethal weapons.

a 16 year old hoody walking through the whitgift centre with a large butchers knive concealed in his sock is deserving of a long stretch in prison, his young age should not get him off taking some responsibility for his actions.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (06 Apr 2018 1.24pm)

Any granny worth her salt will be using a proper pair of secateurs! And her front garden is private property, we're talking in public places.

Plumber, builder, chef etc are all fine and easily provable.

A young person, or unemployed person, would not be able to use such excuses.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 Apr 18 1.36pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by pefwin

Moron, what do you think of Lammy's accusations?


Edited by pefwin (06 Apr 2018 1.08pm)

I think he should look a little closer to home.
Thing is, immigration always brings organised crime with it. It always has. It also brings turf wars. It always has. These realities cannot be avoided by chanting idealist claptrap. We bought this stuff on ourselves (or should I say, politicians did)and now we want a solution. The soultion was not to have mass immigration in the first place.

 

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Originally posted by Stuk

Any granny worth her salt will be using a proper pair of secateurs! And her front garden is private property, we're talking in public places.

Plumber, builder, chef etc are all fine and easily provable.

A young person, or unemployed person, would not be able to use such excuses.

Police receive this training, also in printed form, just in case they may not have the common sense.

 


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View 7mins's Profile 7mins Flag In the bush 06 Apr 18 4.07pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Did Lammy really blame Albanians???

Fair play to him.... He has the balls of a buffalo.

He knows who is to blame.

The thing is,.its politically toxic to say young black men are involved in gang crime.... Lammy, as a black politician has the platform to say things other politicians can't. For him to blame Albanians tells me all I need to know about his priorities (and it ain't stopping young black lads being killed).

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 06 Apr 18 4.12pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by 7mins

Did Lammy really blame Albanians???

Fair play to him.... He has the balls of a buffalo.

He knows who is to blame.

The thing is,.its politically toxic to say young black men are involved in gang crime.... Lammy, as a black politician has the platform to say things other politicians can't. For him to blame Albanians tells me all I need to know about his priorities (and it ain't stopping young black lads being killed).

Yep. ''Black lives don't matter'', according to Katie Hopkins, because its career damaging to say so.

 


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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 06 Apr 18 4.13pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by 7mins

Did Lammy really blame Albanians???

Fair play to him.... He has the balls of a buffalo.

He knows who is to blame.

The thing is,.its politically toxic to say young black men are involved in gang crime.... Lammy, as a black politician has the platform to say things other politicians can't. For him to blame Albanians tells me all I need to know about his priorities (and it ain't stopping young black lads being killed).

He really did:

Drug gangs controlled by Eastern European criminals are fuelling the rising tide of violent crime in London, a Labour MP has claimed.

Asked who he thought was behind it, he said: "I do know from the police that there are big gangs - Eastern European, Albanian - they traffic people, they traffic drugs and they traffic guns."

The person suspected of shooting the girl in his constituency, is from Diane Abott's constituency, according to reports.

 


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View 7mins's Profile 7mins Flag In the bush 06 Apr 18 4.51pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

He really did:

Drug gangs controlled by Eastern European criminals are fuelling the rising tide of violent crime in London, a Labour MP has claimed.

Asked who he thought was behind it, he said: "I do know from the police that there are big gangs - Eastern European, Albanian - they traffic people, they traffic drugs and they traffic guns."

The person suspected of shooting the girl in his constituency, is from Diane Abott's constituency, according to reports.

Change Lammy for a white politician and "Albanians" for "Jamaicans"

They'd be a outcry.

If I were a Albanian...I'd be pretty pissed off... I spend a lot of time in Hackney/Tottenham... I ain't worried about Albanians when I go to the cash point.

I understand they want to get re-elected... but he can't go blaming other groups just so he doesn't upset his core voter group.

This is too big a issue.

 

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View 7mins's Profile 7mins Flag In the bush 06 Apr 18 5.00pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

I sub out a lot of work to Eastern Europeans.. in my experience great workers.

Worst...
West Indians
Irish

^my parents heritage


 

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Originally posted by 7mins

Change Lammy for a white politician and "Albanians" for "Jamaicans"

They'd be a outcry.

If I were a Albanian...I'd be pretty pissed off... I spend a lot of time in Hackney/Tottenham... I ain't worried about Albanians when I go to the cash point.

I understand they want to get re-elected... but he can't go blaming other groups just so he doesn't upset his core voter group.

This is too big a issue.

The first parts are pretty much what I wrote about his comments earlier in the thread.

The thing with him is, he's in no danger of ever not being re-elected in that constituency. He could be as blunt as he wanted to be but he consitently skirts the issue.

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Originally posted by 7mins

I sub out a lot of work to Eastern Europeans.. in my experience great workers.

Worst...
West Indians
Irish

^my parents heritage


You obviously turned out alright 7. It's 'culture' and self determination, not genes. No one has to be a victim of their environment. Many people have an excuse to be wronguns, but it isn't compulsory.

 

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View 7mins's Profile 7mins Flag In the bush 06 Apr 18 5.21pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You obviously turned out alright 7. It's 'culture' and self determination, not genes. No one has to be a victim of their environment. Many people have an excuse to be wronguns, but it isn't compulsory.

Cheers... the older I get... the more I realise how important having good parents is. My parents had two rules.... it was a family mantra... my dad got these two simple rules from a elderly Bangladeshi neighbour... I've always tried to stick to them.

* Good morals
* Work hard

 

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