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Park Road 11 Apr 18 8.22am
Originally posted by Brentmiester_General You said you had no sympathy on the matter. I hope this is not the teachings of your religion BG. A man has died. I think you mean well in general but you do have a tendency to put your foot in your mouth. Time to reflect
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Park Road

11 Apr 18 8.22am

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

You said you had no sympathy on the matter.
I hope this is not the teachings of your religion BG.
A man has died.

I think you mean well in general but you do have a tendency to put your foot in your mouth.

Time to reflect

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Stirlingsays Online 11 Apr 18 8.44am
Originally posted by Brentmiester_General Just don’t let it weigh me down and ruin my life like you seem to. If you want to spend your life bitching and moaning about your perceived lot and the ills of society then that’s up to you. Good luck to you. I’m not saying that the bloke deserved to die. Just that it was all very avoidable and if you want to carry on acting like an idiot then the likelihood is that you’ll get you some form of come back eventually. The whole thread is about us not knowing the circumstances around his death. So who knows what he did when he was inside. You’re turning a massive blind eye to that though because you probably quite enjoyed what he did to get himself banged up. So this man's action that I have criticised I actually support? Great logic there. I'm a critic of the ideas within Islam but I don't support defacing religious buildings or any other building owned by someone other than yourself. I have made that clear. I've stated that I believed that a consequence was required, like community service. You on the other hand said you had no sympathy for this man who has lost his life after being sent to jail. I find your contention that a person must censor themselves because of the fear of an unfair consequence morally distasteful But not as distasteful as I find your stated lack of sympathy you have for what happened to him.....death, by natural causes or foul. Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Apr 2018 8.45am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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11 Apr 18 8.44am

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Just don’t let it weigh me down and ruin my life like you seem to. If you want to spend your life bitching and moaning about your perceived lot and the ills of society then that’s up to you. Good luck to you.
I’m not saying that the bloke deserved to die. Just that it was all very avoidable and if you want to carry on acting like an idiot then the likelihood is that you’ll get you some form of come back eventually.
The whole thread is about us not knowing the circumstances around his death. So who knows what he did when he was inside.
You’re turning a massive blind eye to that though because you probably quite enjoyed what he did to get himself banged up.

So this man's action that I have criticised I actually support?

Great logic there.

I'm a critic of the ideas within Islam but I don't support defacing religious buildings or any other building owned by someone other than yourself. I have made that clear. I've stated that I believed that a consequence was required, like community service.

You on the other hand said you had no sympathy for this man who has lost his life after being sent to jail.

I find your contention that a person must censor themselves because of the fear of an unfair consequence morally distasteful

But not as distasteful as I find your stated lack of sympathy you have for what happened to him.....death, by natural causes or foul.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Apr 2018 8.45am)

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Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 11 Apr 18 10.19am
Originally posted by Park Road In a culture of offence, safe spaces and microaggressions, freedom of speech is being stifled by emotions. The only way to combat racism, sexism and bigotry, left hypocrisy, is to engage in thoughtful discussion about the very things that make people uncomfortable. The way you destroy the bad ideas is with better ones. Screaming names like bigot, racist, homophobe, xenophobe to a person you disagree with throws out the possibility of engaging in important dialogue that should be had. It is counterproductive to the individual and society as a whole to shelter ourselves and allow emotion to reign over facts. That is not how we evolve. So, instead of whining and playing the victim as so many on here do it’s time to start thinking. I'm rationing my HOL time these days so apologies for quoting from a few days ago. Just wanted to say that, socialist as I am, this is a top post. Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)
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In the land of Whelk Eaters 11 Apr 18 10.19am

Originally posted by Park Road

In a culture of offence, safe spaces and microaggressions, freedom of speech is being stifled by emotions. The only way to combat racism, sexism and bigotry, left hypocrisy, is to engage in thoughtful discussion about the very things that make people uncomfortable.

The way you destroy the bad ideas is with better ones. Screaming names like bigot, racist, homophobe, xenophobe to a person you disagree with throws out the possibility of engaging in important dialogue that should be had.

It is counterproductive to the individual and society as a whole to shelter ourselves and allow emotion to reign over facts. That is not how we evolve.

So, instead of whining and playing the victim as so many on here do it’s time to start thinking.

I'm rationing my HOL time these days so apologies for quoting from a few days ago.

Just wanted to say that, socialist as I am, this is a top post.

Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

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Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 11 Apr 18 10.38am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays So this man's action that I have criticised I actually support? Great logic there. I'm a critic of the ideas within Islam but I don't support defacing religious buildings or any other building owned by someone other than yourself. I have made that clear. I've stated that I believed that a consequence was required, like community service. You on the other hand said you had no sympathy for this man who has lost his life after being sent to jail. I find your contention that a person must censor themselves because of the fear of an unfair consequence morally distasteful But not as distasteful as I find your stated lack of sympathy you have for what happened to him.....death, by natural causes or foul. Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Apr 2018 8.45am) At the same time, don’t get so upset about this death of a man you know nothing about. There’s plenty of deaths within the penal system that you won’t know details on or even hear about. I very much doubt you’d care if it didn’t have a back story involving Islam. "We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...
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Front line in the battle against t... 11 Apr 18 10.38am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

So this man's action that I have criticised I actually support?

Great logic there.

You on the other hand said you had no sympathy for this man who has lost his life after being sent to jail.

I find your contention that a person must censor themselves because of the fear of an unfair consequence morally distasteful

But not as distasteful as I find your stated lack of sympathy you have for what happened to him.....death, by natural causes or foul.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Apr 2018 8.45am)

At the same time, don’t get so upset about this death of a man you know nothing about. There’s plenty of deaths within the penal system that you won’t know details on or even hear about. I very much doubt you’d care if it didn’t have a back story involving Islam.

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Park Road 11 Apr 18 10.47am
Originally posted by Mr_Gristle I'm rationing my HOL time these days so apologies for quoting from a few days ago. Just wanted to say that, socialist as I am, this is a top post. Thanks Mr_Gristle "Appreciated"
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Park Road

11 Apr 18 10.47am

Originally posted by Mr_Gristle

I'm rationing my HOL time these days so apologies for quoting from a few days ago.

Just wanted to say that, socialist as I am, this is a top post.

Thanks Mr_Gristle "Appreciated"

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Stirlingsays Online 11 Apr 18 10.48am
Originally posted by Brentmiester_General At the same time, don’t get so upset about this death of a man you know nothing about. There’s plenty of deaths within the penal system that you won’t know details on or even hear about. I very much doubt you’d care if it didn’t have a back story involving Islam. I'm not upset over the death I'm bothered by it. I'm certainly not callous about his death like you have been. I'm certainly quite heavily interested in free speech, secularism and I'm critical of Islamic ideas. And I'm bothered by how our state reacts to all three. Hence this death sparked my attention, particularly as the prison institution appear to have given very limited details and the media have largely ignored it. There is nothing insidious about being concerned about a death that centres around issues you take an interest in. Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Apr 2018 10.49am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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11 Apr 18 10.48am

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

I'm not upset over the death I'm bothered by it. I'm certainly not callous about his death like you have been.

I'm certainly quite heavily interested in free speech, secularism and I'm critical of Islamic ideas. And I'm bothered by how our state reacts to all three. Hence this death sparked my attention, particularly as the prison institution appear to have given very limited details and the media have largely ignored it.

There is nothing insidious about being concerned about a death that centres around issues you take an interest in.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Apr 2018 10.49am)

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Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 11 Apr 18 11.00am
Originally posted by Park Road You said you had no sympathy on the matter. I hope this is not the teachings of your religion BG. A man has died. I think you mean well in general but you do have a tendency to put your foot in your mouth. Time to reflect Reflect on what exactly? I don't have sympathy for people trying to spread and act on hate. If he’s died as a direct consequence of his actions then hopefully others will learn from it. We have no evidence to suggest he has died as a consequence though. There’s a fair bit of assumption being used to perhaps suggest that there is a correlation. I just like to get involved when it’s the same people always ready to chuck their tuppence worth in on all threads involving a slant on Islam/immigrants/Brexit etc. It may seem like m putting my foot in my mouth but in reality I do intend to say what I say. If you want to talk about unfair deaths, there’s a few million unfair deaths happening all over the world every year by the hands of of governments and it’s allies that we can reflect on if you like? "We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...
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Front line in the battle against t... 11 Apr 18 11.00am

Originally posted by Park Road

You said you had no sympathy on the matter.
I hope this is not the teachings of your religion BG.
A man has died.

I think you mean well in general but you do have a tendency to put your foot in your mouth.

Time to reflect

Reflect on what exactly?

I don't have sympathy for people trying to spread and act on hate. If he’s died as a direct consequence of his actions then hopefully others will learn from it. We have no evidence to suggest he has died as a consequence though. There’s a fair bit of assumption being used to perhaps suggest that there is a correlation.
I just like to get involved when it’s the same people always ready to chuck their tuppence worth in on all threads involving a slant on Islam/immigrants/Brexit etc. It may seem like m putting my foot in my mouth but in reality I do intend to say what I say. If you want to talk about unfair deaths, there’s a few million unfair deaths happening all over the world every year by the hands of of governments and it’s allies that we can reflect on if you like?

"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

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Park Road 11 Apr 18 11.43am
Originally posted by Brentmiester_General Reflect on what exactly? I don't have sympathy for people trying to spread and act on hate. If he’s died as a direct consequence of his actions then hopefully others will learn from it. We have no evidence to suggest he has died as a consequence though. There’s a fair bit of assumption being used to perhaps suggest that there is a correlation. I just like to get involved when it’s the same people always ready to chuck their tuppence worth in on all threads involving a slant on Islam/immigrants/Brexit etc. It may seem like m putting my foot in my mouth but in reality I do intend to say what I say. If you want to talk about unfair deaths, there’s a few million unfair deaths happening all over the world every year by the hands of of governments and it’s allies that we can reflect on if you like? I hate Brighton , and Man u. Do you have sympathy for me? If I was foolish enough to shout eagles to one of their fans and they killed me because it was offensive, should I have deserved the outcome? It's death by direct consequence. I know you'll understand because you share my hatred of them. Any sympathy yet,? Or is that fair game as well. Governments can be horrible I agree Edited by Park Road (11 Apr 2018 11.44am) Edited by Park Road (11 Apr 2018 11.45am)
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11 Apr 18 11.43am

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Reflect on what exactly?

I hate Brighton , and Man u. Do you have sympathy for me?

If I was foolish enough to shout eagles to one of their fans and they killed me because it was offensive, should I have deserved the outcome?

It's death by direct consequence. I know you'll understand because you share my hatred of them.

Any sympathy yet,? Or is that fair game as well.

Governments can be horrible I agree

Edited by Park Road (11 Apr 2018 11.44am)

Edited by Park Road (11 Apr 2018 11.45am)

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Park Road 11 Apr 18 12.18pm
Originally posted by Park Road I hate Brighton , and Man u. Do you have sympathy for me? If I was foolish enough to shout eagles to one of their fans and they killed me because it was offensive, should I have deserved the outcome? It's death by direct consequence. I know you'll understand because you share my hatred of them. Any sympathy yet,? Or is that fair game as well. Governments can be horrible I agree Edited by Park Road (11 Apr 2018 11.44am) Edited by Park Road (11 Apr 2018 11.45am) Or think about this. Your comments about hating Brighton and Man u, plus the f#ck you bit after, gets seen by a Brighton or Man u troll on here. They somehow find where you are and kill you because of what you wrote. I'd have sympathy for you, but would you have sympathy for yourself? Edited by Park Road (11 Apr 2018 12.19pm)
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11 Apr 18 12.18pm

Originally posted by Park Road

I hate Brighton , and Man u. Do you have sympathy for me?

If I was foolish enough to shout eagles to one of their fans and they killed me because it was offensive, should I have deserved the outcome?

It's death by direct consequence. I know you'll understand because you share my hatred of them.

Any sympathy yet,? Or is that fair game as well.

Governments can be horrible I agree

Edited by Park Road (11 Apr 2018 11.44am)

Edited by Park Road (11 Apr 2018 11.45am)

Or think about this.

Your comments about hating Brighton and Man u, plus the f#ck you bit after, gets seen by a Brighton or Man u troll on here.

They somehow find where you are and kill you because of what you wrote.

I'd have sympathy for you, but would you have sympathy for yourself?

Edited by Park Road (11 Apr 2018 12.19pm)

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npn Crowborough 11 Apr 18 12.36pm
Originally posted by Park Road You're correct it is a Hindu sign but not to most of the world I think you'll find more associate it with Adolf and his mates. Talking of Hindus if I rode a cow outside or next to a Hindu temple in London. Shouting cows are just dumb animals Should I be arrested for a hate crime. Edited by Park Road (10 Apr 2018 12.56pm) Absolutely no crime there in my opinion, however a closer correlation to this case would surely be if you led the cow into the Hindu temple and slaughtered it, in which case I could very much see it as a hate crime (as there's no reason at all to do it apart from to antogonise and/or distress a group of people based on their religion). I love a bit of bacon myself, but the whole purpose of putting bacon on the door of a mosque is to upset people - it's dickish if nothing else!
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Crowborough 11 Apr 18 12.36pm

Originally posted by Park Road

You're correct it is a Hindu sign but not to most of the world
I think you'll find more associate it with Adolf and his mates.

Talking of Hindus if I rode a cow outside or next to a Hindu temple in London. Shouting cows are just dumb animals

Should I be arrested for a hate crime.
Edited by Park Road (10 Apr 2018 12.56pm)

Absolutely no crime there in my opinion, however a closer correlation to this case would surely be if you led the cow into the Hindu temple and slaughtered it, in which case I could very much see it as a hate crime (as there's no reason at all to do it apart from to antogonise and/or distress a group of people based on their religion).

I love a bit of bacon myself, but the whole purpose of putting bacon on the door of a mosque is to upset people - it's dickish if nothing else!

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Park Road 11 Apr 18 12.47pm
Originally posted by npn Absolutely no crime there in my opinion, however a closer correlation to this case would surely be if you led the cow into the Hindu temple and slaughtered it, in which case I could very much see it as a hate crime (as there's no reason at all to do it apart from to antogonise and/or distress a group of people based on their religion). I love a bit of bacon myself, but the whole purpose of putting bacon on the door of a mosque is to upset people - it's dickish if nothing else! Surely, if you slaughter the cow that demonstrates a hate crime towards the cow. Then you'll have PETA looking for you not the Hindus
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Park Road

11 Apr 18 12.47pm

Originally posted by npn

I love a bit of bacon myself, but the whole purpose of putting bacon on the door of a mosque is to upset people - it's dickish if nothing else!

Surely, if you slaughter the cow that demonstrates a hate crime towards the cow.

Then you'll have PETA looking for you not the Hindus

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Stirlingsays Online 04 May 18 7.34pm
Well, that's April been and gone, still no word from this inquest. This inquest was launched in January 2017 for this bloke who died December 27 2016. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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04 May 18 7.34pm

Well, that's April been and gone, still no word from this inquest.

This inquest was launched in January 2017 for this bloke who died December 27 2016.

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