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Originally posted by tazzer

With Wilf being on £130,000 a week that rules him out of a move to Spurs because they just do not pay those sort of wages.
Arsenal won’t cough up a large transfer fee.
He hated living in Manchester so I guess that rules out Liverpool as well. Realistically it could only be Chelsea who have a transfer ban.

Edited by tazzer (12 May 2019 10.43pm)

I think that statement is a bit misleading as Spurs do pay their players significant bonuses, appearance fees, etc. to make up for their comparitively lower wages. Furthermore, there are signs of change with Kane now now on 200k pw and even Llorente was given an 80k pw deal when he signed as a back up striker. I imagine if Spurs got as far as getting Zaha to the table Levy would be able to offer something that would encourage him to sign. I would hate that of course as Levy is a pr*ck, but he is undoubtedly one of the shrewdest operators.

I really hope that Wilf decides to stay rather than it being a case of no one coming in for him, or not offering enough. He needs to be here because he wants to be here and I hope he decides this is his permanent home.

 

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I think we might have a bit of a Le Tissier situation here.

MLT was constantly linked with other clubs, with everyone saying he needed to leave “lowly” Southampton in order to fulfill his undoubted potential but he was astute enough to realise that he needed the love and adulation of the supporters as much as anything else and there was no guarantee he’d get that at another club. Southampton fans adored him and held him in much the same esteem as we do with Wilf and I think that played a very big part in his decision to stick with Southampton.

There’s no club that Wilf could realistically go to that would guarantee him starting every week. The fans of such a club would see him as just another signing and certainly not give him the iconic status he enjoys at Selhurst and would certainly turn on him if he suffered a temporary drop in form. Wilf’s a confidence player and thrives on being the lynchpin of the side. He’s had his fingers burnt already when he went to Man U and it was obvious to see that his confidence and form both fell off a cliff during what was clearly a very unhappy episode in his career.

There are so many boxes that need to be ticked for him to get the successful transfer he thinks he wants that I believe, for what it’s worth, that he’ll decide to stay put at Palace. I genuinely do.

 


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Originally posted by Cucking Funt

I think we might have a bit of a Le Tissier situation here.

MLT was constantly linked with other clubs, with everyone saying he needed to leave “lowly” Southampton in order to fulfill his undoubted potential but he was astute enough to realise that he needed the love and adulation of the supporters as much as anything else and there was no guarantee he’d get that at another club. Southampton fans adored him and held him in much the same esteem as we do with Wilf and I think that played a very big part in his decision to stick with Southampton.

There’s no club that Wilf could realistically go to that would guarantee him starting every week. The fans of such a club would see him as just another signing and certainly not give him the iconic status he enjoys at Selhurst and would certainly turn on him if he suffered a temporary drop in form. Wilf’s a confidence player and thrives on being the lynchpin of the side. He’s had his fingers burnt already when he went to Man U and it was obvious to see that his confidence and form both fell off a cliff during what was clearly a very unhappy episode in his career.

There are so many boxes that need to be ticked for him to get the successful transfer he thinks he wants that I believe, for what it’s worth, that he’ll decide to stay put at Palace. I genuinely do.

Great post.

My sentiments exactly.

Stay with us and achieve legendary status or move and become just another signing.

Let's build a team around Wilf who in my opinion is one of the top handful of players in the entire league.

Edited by Tom-the-eagle (13 May 2019 9.01am)

 


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Originally posted by Cucking Funt

I think we might have a bit of a Le Tissier situation here.

MLT was constantly linked with other clubs, with everyone saying he needed to leave “lowly” Southampton in order to fulfill his undoubted potential but he was astute enough to realise that he needed the love and adulation of the supporters as much as anything else and there was no guarantee he’d get that at another club. Southampton fans adored him and held him in much the same esteem as we do with Wilf and I think that played a very big part in his decision to stick with Southampton.

There’s no club that Wilf could realistically go to that would guarantee him starting every week. The fans of such a club would see him as just another signing and certainly not give him the iconic status he enjoys at Selhurst and would certainly turn on him if he suffered a temporary drop in form. Wilf’s a confidence player and thrives on being the lynchpin of the side. He’s had his fingers burnt already when he went to Man U and it was obvious to see that his confidence and form both fell off a cliff during what was clearly a very unhappy episode in his career.

There are so many boxes that need to be ticked for him to get the successful transfer he thinks he wants that I believe, for what it’s worth, that he’ll decide to stay put at Palace. I genuinely do.

Yeah, good post; nothing I'd take issue with there.

 


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There will be an "informal" release clause somewhere and if an offer matches it then SP will have to let him talk to other clubs.
We owe Wilf that - he owes us very little by comparison.
Whether he will get what he wants if he moves no one knows but for sure he will never get the love that he gets at CPFC nor will he ever get the freedom and a free pass from the fans whenever he makes an error at any other Club.
I just hope that he stays but I am not holding my breath.
As another poster said - if it's going to happen then let it happen quickly and let's move on.
The only good thing there is that if that clause exists then SP need not sell and I suspect Wilf would stand by it as well because he will value himself as well.

Edited by The Dolphin (13 May 2019 12.45pm)

 

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Originally posted by Cucking Funt

I think we might have a bit of a Le Tissier situation here.

MLT was constantly linked with other clubs, with everyone saying he needed to leave “lowly” Southampton in order to fulfill his undoubted potential but he was astute enough to realise that he needed the love and adulation of the supporters as much as anything else and there was no guarantee he’d get that at another club. Southampton fans adored him and held him in much the same esteem as we do with Wilf and I think that played a very big part in his decision to stick with Southampton.

There’s no club that Wilf could realistically go to that would guarantee him starting every week. The fans of such a club would see him as just another signing and certainly not give him the iconic status he enjoys at Selhurst and would certainly turn on him if he suffered a temporary drop in form. Wilf’s a confidence player and thrives on being the lynchpin of the side. He’s had his fingers burnt already when he went to Man U and it was obvious to see that his confidence and form both fell off a cliff during what was clearly a very unhappy episode in his career.

There are so many boxes that need to be ticked for him to get the successful transfer he thinks he wants that I believe, for what it’s worth, that he’ll decide to stay put at Palace. I genuinely do.

Great post Cuckers, I hope you're right. I was saying after the game yesterday that Wilf has brought me the most pleasure and given me the most entertainment than any other player I've ever seen in the red & blue in 45-odd years of support. Yes he deserves to play at a higher level and I wouldn't begrudge him another go at a top club, but I'd still be massively gutted if he left, purely from a selfish point of view. I love Wilf and would miss him hugely if he went. The fact he's a local lad and seems like a top bloke just increases my admiration for him.

 


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Originally posted by bexleydave

Yeah, good post; nothing I'd take issue with there.

Youve replied somewhat inferring that a dissapointment has befallen you.
You agreeing with CF mmmm
You must have a plan dave

 

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I remember the day Wilf made his debut v Cardiff, I was also a teenager same age as him thinking the same thing I had thought 3 years before when seeing Vic Moses and Sean Scannell make their debuts.. theyre so lucky.
I look back now, and think, its me that was lucky. Ive been lucky enough to witness the best footballer Crystal Palace has ever had, let alone produced.

I would love more than anything for Wilf to stay here for the remainder of his career and become a legend like Le Tissier at Southampton, but for the first time theres this part of me that has resigned to the fact he will be leaving this summer.. The eagerness to impress and score a goal mixed with the 89th minute substitution Sunday felt like a goodbye.

If he does go, i cant blame him, hes stayed at Palace alot longer than most players of his quality would, he deserves champions league football.. I just hope he moves abroad if he does.

Edited by RyWa (13 May 2019 5.51pm)

 

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Originally posted by xomnea

Never have I celebrated a dribble as passionately as Wilf skinning those two players for the Andros goal. If he carried on and pinged it top bin I’m fairly confident I would have been stretchered out.
He’s just too good for you.

hahahha, I was the same. He was like the incredible Hulk. Unbelievable stuff. Up there with my favourite moment of the season. The man is strong as an ox he can can s***e standing up.

 

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Originally posted by RyWa

I remember the day Wilf made his debut v Cardiff, I was also a teenager same age as him thinking the same thing I had thought 3 years before when seeing Vic Moses and Sean Scannell make their debuts.. theyre so lucky.
I look back now, and think, its me that was lucky. Ive been lucky enough to witness the best footballer Crystal Palace has ever had, let alone produced.

I would love more than anything for Wilf to stay here for the remainder of his career and become a legend like Le Tissier at Southampton, but for the first time theres this part of me that has resigned to the fact he will be leaving this summer.. The eagerness to impress and score a goal mixed with the 89th minute substitution Sunday felt like a goodbye.

If he does go, i cant blame him, hes stayed at Palace alot longer than most players of his quality would, he deserves champions league football.. I just hope he moves abroad if he does.

Edited by RyWa (13 May 2019 5.51pm)

I honestly think he got taken off before he got sent off or injured, nothing to do with his last appearance. He is the best tool we have to get better players, he just needs to threaten to leave and it should push the board into signing more quality players.
If we can make 2 big signings this summer then I think that will be enough to keep him.

 

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Originally posted by xomnea

Never have I celebrated a dribble as passionately as Wilf skinning those two players for the Andros goal. If he carried on and pinged it top bin I’m fairly confident I would have been stretchered out.
He’s just too good for you.

At my age a dribble is all there is to celebrate.

Joking aside (!) shouldn't the klutz who pushed Wilf still have been shown the yellow card? Maybe he was, but I doubt it.

 


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Originally posted by YT

At my age a dribble is all there is to celebrate.

Joking aside (!) shouldn't the klutz who pushed Wilf still have been shown the yellow card? Maybe he was, but I doubt it.

Jefferson Lerma who had got involved with Wilf about 1 minute earlier. Yes he should have had a yellow but he didn't. He got Son sent off the week before and had a confrontation with Dele Alli, expect him to see red a few times next season.
On a side note I thought the ref handled the Wilf situation very sensibly,(unlike the ref for the Watford game) earlier in the season he possibly would have shown a red

 

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